Even the remote operators suffer from the limited visibility (just camera feeds) and end up crashing the cars almost every time... wow...

According to Quinn Slobodian, anyone who thinks they can explain the recent history of Elon Musk, Tesla and X with the answer "Elon's gone crazy" must have got the idea of what crazy means exactly wrong. After all, his personal net worth has borne no injury from the appearance of going crazy.

In this interview with HEIST, Slobodian tracks how Musk's "fortress futurism" grew out of his personal history in apartheid South Africa, and the far right's own ideas of inbuilt inequality are not, as is often assumed, formed in reaction to neoliberal thought, but grow from within it.

https://www.heistberlin.com/quinn-slobodian-interview-berlin-musk-afd/

For the first time ever, the Swiss Supreme Court upheld a conviction of a passenger for reckless driving: A Tesla Salesman talked a prospective buyer into testing the car’s acceleration, driving up to 133kph in a 50kph zone.

Tesla drivers have super race driver skills and can handle those sorts of speeds, especially since laws don't apply. Wonder what went wrong?

And now for the regularly scheduled TSLA Terathread

Am most likely going to buy Tesla Model Y Premium AWD, which by the looks of it and the popularity is supposed to be the "practical" choice. But with the insurance rates being so high, I will lose like all gas savings...

It terms of price it feels like a luxury purchase, but then again any regular car is $50k nowadays. And I already paid to get Tesla Home Charger Installed (universal luckily)

Idk if I should just save up and get a Porsche Cayenne Electric.

I have a close relative who has been on the Tesla train for many years and simply believes they are superior to any other cars. I usually don't listen too much when they start praising Tesla but the other day, I took the time to listen and was surprised to hear what made AP and FSD so great. It was stuff like:

* Brakes and accelerates to follow traffic flow

* Stays on lanes

* Avoids lane change if there is a vehicle approaching from behind in the other lane

* Autobraking for pedestrians

* Braking when reversing and there is oncoming traffic

It was auto navigation as well but most of the things were just standard ADAS functions that has been around for 10+ years at legacy cars. Am I missing something here or are the hardcore Tesla fans just uninformed about what cars in general are capable of?

Sounds like some good news.

I ask because the repo man loves my gym & I just pulled up one repossessing a Tesla with a flat bed. He was taking his good ole time so I sat waiting for the owner to run outside, which never happened. As a non Tesla owner who thinks sneezing too loudly in a Tesla results in a notification, Im a bit confused by the car not alerting the owner that it’s being lifted in the air. or maybe it did but the owner was bench pressing or something. Thoughts?

And now for the regularly scheduled TSLA Terathread

I am looking to buy a Tesla, ideally for FSD.

Half the appeal is not having to actively manage every second of driving. Stop and go traffic on my commute home is the worst part of my day. And my parents are getting older, they're 5 hours away, and that drive is the main reason I don't visit more. I'm hoping FSD changes that.

I've read the glowing reviews. Now I want the other side.

FSD disengagements you've actually hit. Build quality issues. Service wait times. Insurance costs. Resale value. Anything that didn't match the marketing once you owned it.

If you regret buying one, or almost did and backed out, I especially want to hear it. Alternatives welcome too.

Trying to stress-test this before I buy, not confirm what I already believe.

Tesla self-driving 'not aggressive enough,' driver accused of searching before deadly Katy crash

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/trending/article/tesla-crash-manslaughter-michael-butler-fsd-22330694.php Site allows limited views before paywalling. Open in incognito mode. Text from article below.

This one's looking like it had nothing to do with FSD or Tesla and everything to do with a dangerous and possibly unhinged driver.

Some of the salient points from the article -

A Harris County Sheriff's Office investigator wrote in a criminal complaint against David Michael Butler that after reviewing crash data and footage, she determined that Butler overrode Tesla’s Full Self-Driving Mode, pressing the accelerator all the way down to “100% pedal to the metal,” before hitting the curb, going airborne and crashing into the home.

..............................................................Officials obtained written consent from Butler to search and seize his Tesla and verbal consent to search his cell phone, Philipbar said in the complaint. Data from the vehicle included “videos from the Tesla’s dash-camera and exterior driver-door camera, as well as logs of the Tesla’s speed, accelerator pedal input, brake pedal input, steering activity, turn signal activity and more.”

Investigators with the sheriff’s office observed “multiple Google searches related to Tesla” made from Butler's phone in May, the complaint said, “indicating an apparent frustration with Tesla’s FSD mode,” or Tesla’s Full-Self Driving Mode.

Butler searched: “teslafsd not aggressive enough 2026 model,” “FSD is not aggressive enough for city driving,” and “tesla fsd too timid,” according to the complaint. 

......................................................She alleges Butler pressed the accelerator and overrode self-driving mode when the vehicle was about to turn, and that the steering wheel also changed from left to right, causing the vehicle to go straight into Avila's cul-de-sac instead, the complaint states.

“In about six seconds, the accelerator pedal was pressed all the way down to 100%, ‘pedal to the metal,’ and the vehicle reached a speed of 73 miles per hour, more than double the speed limit on that residential street,” Philipbar stated. The Tesla struck the curb in front of Avila's home before going airborne toward the front of the home, the complaint said. 

Philipbar said she researched FSD technology and spoke with a Harris County District Attorney’s Office investigator who had years of experience reconstructing crash scenes and previously analyzed Tesla vehicles involved in fatal crashes. 

“FSD mode was designed and is programmed to never travel at excessive or dangerous speeds in any location, unless the driver overrides the speed and gains control of the speed by pressing on the accelerator pedal,” Philipbar stated.

The Katy, Texas crash from June 19th surfaces a problem that isn't really about this specific incident. There's no formal independent review process that compels Tesla to present its vehicle data to a neutral third party. Their VP posts on X. Elon Musk posts on X. That's the accountability mechanism right now.

A California court already ruled in December 2025 that Tesla's autopilot marketing was deceptive. NHTSA opened an investigation. The family filed suit in Harris County.

Same week NYC moved to mandate bias reviews for every AI tool touching its 1.1 million students. Colorado's AI Act kicks in June 30th.

Curious where people land on the liability question specifically. When automated systems are involved, who actually bears responsibility when something goes wrong?

A Tesla factory semi was involved in fatal wreck in Northern Nevada near the Gigafactory last Sunday. The collision occurred on June 28, 2026 at 07:15 AM in clear weather. The truck slammed into the back of 2 cars that were stopped for a red light at approximately 60 miles per hour, with no attempt to stop. Reports say that the driver may have fallen asleep. Recent reports also say that Tesla has been actively testing self-drive in the area, including FSD and supervised modes. Tesla has long touted the advanced safety technologies of their semis, so it seems difficult to believe that a sleeping driver wouldn't have received a wake-up alert or that auto braking wouldn't have made some attempt. My intent of this post is not to bash Tesla, and I'm not an expert on their technology, but I am a Commercial driver and I know new trucks have collision avoidance systems.

edit to add link

https://youtu.be/7pUzQciXF0M?is=PVwP0uVDVYWO_A7T