r/NeverBeGameOver 23h ago

The use of Keifer, instead of David.

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I genuinely enjoy Keifer as Venom/Big Boss and wanted to shine a little bit of light on the choice Kojima made by replacing Mr. Hayter. Up until recently, I never understood the reason Hideo moved on from David because how can you replace Snake? But then it hit me.

When you escape the hospital with the other guy, it made no sense that he also was voiced by Keifer. If you are supposedly Big Boss, then why are you escaping with Big Boss? Stop right there, if you can recall Peace Walker, which is a game I have at least 200+ hours on, David voiced Snake. This is important to understand because for the entire game you are playing as Snake, so David's voice is what Snake sounds from his own perspective. Now that we have been forced to play as someone else, Snake from the Medic's perspective sounds like Keifer. But this doesn't just apply to Snake, it also applies to Ocelot aswell. We, the player, have become used to either Patric Zimmerman as Revolver Ocelot/Liquid Ocelot, or Josh Keaton as young Ocelot. Medic? Medic has never met Ocelot in his life, so when Venom meets Ocelot he sound just like Troy Baker.

The kicker? Medic/Venom has always had to report to Miller during the events of Peace Walker, so Miller doesn't sound any different when Venom rescues him in Afghanistan.

Cipher got a guy who doesn't sound like Snake and made him sound like Snake. They then got Ocelot to tie in the events of MGS3, and they then got Miller to keep the ruse going.

Hideo got a guy who doesn't sound like Snake and made him sound like Snake, he also got a guy who doesn't sound like Ocelot and made him sound like Ocelot, he then got the same guy who voiced Miller to keep the ruse going.

I want your opinions on this aswell, I am also crazy.


r/NeverBeGameOver 2d ago

Why would Rose want Raiden to remember the date she started to deceive him?šŸ¤”

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Rose constantly asking Raiden about what day it is tomorrow seemed inappropriate given that he was on a life or death mission and his personal life shouldn’t be apart of it. She should know distracting him would be unwise and dangerous to him.

When you think about it, you also have to ask, why would she want Raiden to remember the day she started deceiving him? It would have been a special day if she fell in love with him then, but she didn’t! She was supposedly acting! Playing a role. She actually fell in love with him some time later.

So why would she want Raiden to remember the anniversary of her deception?

Could it be a part of the exercise? She did know that Raiden’s memory was manipulated, yet she was always complaining about knowing nothing about her own boyfriend. Instead of it coming across as a woman treasuring the day she met her boyfriend it comes across as memory testing someone whose memory was manipulated. She wants to see if he remembers but not because she treasures the anniversary.

Emma did say that GW was a system that would allow the Patriots to decide what was recorded in tomorrow’s history. Ai Emma also did say that GW wasn’t complete, but was now completed thanks to Raiden. April 30, 2007 will go done in history as the day Raiden met Rose but I believe that is only a part of the story or that was a lie. That may just be a selected memory for Raiden to keep his sanity. I’m not sure if he would handle the truth of him being a pawn of the S3 plan.


r/NeverBeGameOver 3d ago

"Hideo Kojima" donated Floating Carriers Lv2 to Italian-Joe's supply request in Death Stranding 2 On the Beach

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r/NeverBeGameOver 8d ago

Was mask on Gray Fox VR? Much like Metal Gear D! šŸ¤”

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If you watch the [MG2: Solid Snake intro](https://youtu.be/2sGxUkubKjg?is=LLPeN58Kd7Qkz4Jz), you will see that almost every component of Metal Gear D is labeled as VR. They are considered VR components because they are sensors that replace the human senses. Like the infrared laser sight replacing the pilot’s sight. I believe this is the same with Metal Gear D’s motor skills.

Similarly when Rex’s radome gets destroyed, Liquid has to open the cockpit to see Snake. Is it the same with Gray Fox as the Cyborg Ninja? He seems to have infrared vision when the mask is on. I’m not sure about his other senses. For example I’m not sure about his sense of touch given the ā€œclashing of bone and sinewā€ comment.

So is masked Gray Fox the Cyborg Ninja basically in VR with a wide array of sensors replacing his human senses?


r/NeverBeGameOver 8d ago

FOB PEACE

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Hi, I just got a question for the community, has anyone tried to achieve peace at an FOB? I know that a lot of us went crazy chasing nukes back then but all that effort just brings more war, players fighting players to steal their nukes, an armament race to archive peace It's all we got.

But what I mean is not going hostile on an invasion, let the defender approach the invader without triggering an alert during a real 1vs 1, it has to be an enemy players and not a friend because the game considers that training. A real enemy invasion where players can achieve peace right there in that moment.

The reason why I think it may work is because, 2 Snakes can face each other at the same time just like in a mirror, The game is called the Phantom Pain and there's a way to treat the phantom pain with the use of mirrors, Mirror therapy (MT) or mirror visual feedback (MVF) as Wikipedia calls it, consisting on creating a visual (and psychological) illusion of two intact limbs by putting the patient's affected limb into a "mirror box," with a mirror down the center (facing toward a patient's intact limb).

They way it can be done is by emptying your FOB, so guards don't interfere, and try to interact with the invader, marking each other, zooming in with binoculars or just the camera, imitating each other actions or movements, blasting the same song through the idroid speaker to see if it has any effect like the old mother base staff, interrogate each other, use the rocket punch to hit each other horn, using the water pistol or any other friendly actions tha can be possible.

We could agree beforehand to a code to know when the invader would not be hostile, maybe staying on the spawn point while wearing a specific camo like the tuxedo or staying inside a cardboard box until the defender gets to their location.

I now it sounds crazy, and difficult, but disarmament is not possible, never will be, phantom nuke are an issue that Konami doesn't want to fix, maybe because disarmament only bring more war instead of peace.


r/NeverBeGameOver 10d ago

question for my insecurity

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r/NeverBeGameOver 11d ago

Why Metal Gear Solid V is OBSESSED with the Old Testament - The Phantom Pain's Tapes

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r/NeverBeGameOver 11d ago

Flashlight Therapy: While V Sleeps, Some Jerk is Shining A Light In His Face

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r/NeverBeGameOver 11d ago

Liquid Ocelot's Quote From MGS4: "The AI They Think They Lost It's Mine" #mgs4

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r/NeverBeGameOver 12d ago

Why did Naomi lie about the timespan since Shadow Moses and MGS4?šŸ¤”

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When Otacon converts Naomi’s South American message [she specifically states that 9 years ago she injected Snake with foxdie!](https://youtu.be/wEUtXH1cvkg?is=hgiitO5WJ4v3MF9-&t=1h59m27s)

However later on when Snake goes to rescue her in South America Naomi volunteers the question to Snake about [how long it’s been since she seen him. She says it’s been 10 years, but Snake corrects her and says 9.](https://youtu.be/wEUtXH1cvkg?is=DJ6eOaXBo9N77nBS&t=3h27s)

Its seems like a casual conversation people would have when they haven’t seen each other in a while, but why would she says 10 years when she knows it’s 9 and previously said as much in the video she sent Otacon?šŸ¤”

Is this included in the game to suggest something. If so then what?


r/NeverBeGameOver 15d ago

Yet another hint that one of the paradoxes created was the Nintendo NES Metal Gear universe (non-canon) and genre switch to Detective game.

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Extra Ops in Ground Zeroes mission title ā€œDeja Vuā€


r/NeverBeGameOver 16d ago

Olga is real????

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r/NeverBeGameOver 16d ago

My MGSV Director's Cut Headcanon: Will The Real Phantom Please Stand Up

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Update 3, Final-ish:

The game "ends" like the standard edition but then instead of the timeline it fades to Chapter 3: Peace.

We cut to mission 51 where we hunt down and defeat Liquid in Sahelanthropus. After a lengthy and arduous fight, Venom gives Miller a short speech about peace, the cost of war, and whether any of this was worth it. Venom stares up at the sunset as we fade to black.

Another ending fake out, this time we see a title card pop up that reads...

Mission 52: Birth of a Legend (11 years later...)

We cut to Outer Heaven moments before Solid Snake (voiced by Hayter) fights Venom. Venom, sitting patiently in a room listening to the commotion on base, hears Snake approaching. An epic CQC fight ensues and Snake wins. Snake sees Venom fall and crack his head open, kneels down and checks his heart rate. No pulse and blood begins pooling. Realizing he needs to leave immediately, Snake begins his escape.

Unbeknownst to Snake, we see Psycho Mantis lurking in the background.

After escaping the explosion, Snake lights up a cigarette and contacts Roy Campbell. He explains to Campbell that he barely escaped with his life and that his smoking hasn't slowed him down a bit. He gives details of Venom's final moments and how he wasn't 100% sure if he was dead due to the chaos, but that the explosion would have finished him off regardless. Campbell informs him that an evac helicopter is arriving at his location, notes that the world will be more peaceful without people like Big Boss, and that Snake is a true soldier through and through. Snake quips that he's just doing his job, doesn't care about that, and that he still dreams of Alaska and the Iditarod as the helicopter flies off into the night...the screen fades to black again.

As we fade back in, we are back seconds before Venom's fall. We see Mantis straining himself to control Snake while repeating "blood... heart..." Snake leaves and Mantis nearly collapses to the ground while rushing to a battered Venom. He tells him that they need to go, now. Venom has clear signs of a broken jaw but no blood is visible anymore, just hair. They are able to escape and fly away from the base. As they fly off, they see Snake running to his helicopter and the camera pans up to a night sky full of stars. The last thing we hear is the grumbling of a man with a broken jaw, sounding like... "peace... what is it good for?"

The end?...Timeline rolls.

Post-timeline audio tape:

Zero and Ocelot talk about how well the medic performed as Ocelot and how they couldn't risk the real Ocelot. They're glad they brought in a pro for BB because the medic wasn't a good candidate. His history in support roles and his willingness to take a "bullet" for BB made him perfect for the Ocelot position.

They continue: Decoy Octopus was brought in for his ultimate test. They laugh about how the hardest part was removing the shrapnel from the medic and putting it in Decoy without either of them dying. Ocelot muses about how Quiet was a real risk, being Decoy's lover at one point. Zero enjoys how she didn't know why she was so drawn to "Venom."

(Mantis joins the chat) He explains that everything is going well with Decoy, but complains that he himself has lost all his hair due to the strain of manipulating what Solid was actually witnessing during the fight. Zero interrupts and tells him to just prepare Decoy for his next assignment...and dispose of the medic.

Fin

(Director's Cut Bonus Disk Reveal)

Raiden is secretly Decoy and Quiet's child, they had healthy twins they never knew about. Zero had agents monitoring Quiet. They drugged her, took Raiden shortly after birth, and staged his twin as a gruesome stillbirth. Zero then ensured Raiden was delivered to Solidus.

Quiet and Decoy separated shortly after, they still loved each other, but the pain was too much. Ocelot never knew about the twins or the full extent of their relationship.

The shrapnel transfer was a cover story for anyone who had heard about the helicopter crash. The extreme stress of living as Big Boss, combined with the shrapnel in his brain caused Decoy to believe he was the medic. Losing his arm was no big deal, ironically.

Mantis was miserable for the rest of his life because he lost all his hair from dealing with Solid Snake. The man could bend minds and control Metal Gears, but he couldn't regrow his hair. šŸ’€


r/NeverBeGameOver 17d ago

What are your top 2 unanswered questions from the game?šŸ¤”

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r/NeverBeGameOver 23d ago

What wrong? You don’t like metaphors?šŸ¤”

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What is OUR COUNTRY a metaphor for?

Why can she now build a new destiny for herself?

What is the significance of the BLUE rose petal falling?

There is a sub plot happening. Did you catch it? Or do you think Naomi was just rambling? šŸ‘€


r/NeverBeGameOver 23d ago

Resident Evil Retconning... I mean, Resident Evil DƩjƠ Vu

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How is it that Resident Evil Requiem looks like "Metal Gear Solid 4 meets Silent Hill 2 Remake"?


r/NeverBeGameOver 23d ago

"Drop the 'CODE', just 'Veronica'. It's clearer"

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r/NeverBeGameOver 24d ago

Girl refused to shakes hands during graduation with teachers and administrators because she was bullied and they did nothing about it

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r/NeverBeGameOver 25d ago

Turn the Console Off Right Now Spoiler

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r/NeverBeGameOver 25d ago

Witch the HELL are Liquid and this psychic talking about?šŸ¤”

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They say a picture says a thousand words, but what the HELL is this psychic witch Fortune talking about? What are her words really saying? Don’t forget she talks to her dead father! MGS2 may have shown us that there is such a thing as witch. A psychic one at that.

Looking at the MGS1 pics we know what HELL Liquid wants to send Gray Fox back to. We know Gray Fox is a prisoner of death. He’s an undying shadow in a world of lights. A ghost looking for a place to die.

Could Liquid and Fortune possibly be talking about the same HELL? Not child soldier hell, but the ā€œfires of hellā€ as in Hades.šŸ¤”

Don’t put it past her, she does find these immortals to be interesting? These undying men!!!😱


r/NeverBeGameOver 27d ago

Henry Kissinger is G-Man from Half-life game

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Hear me out guys. We all joked about Gabe Newell not knowing how to count to three but the truth is Valve was just waiting for security clearance to use the script.

The biggest insider drop here: Henry Kissinger is literally the real life G-Man. He played this game in reality (geopolitics) on God mode for almost 100 years. The Half-Life plot isnt sci-fi, its a documentary they are feeding us in pieces.

Look at how the game lore perfectly maps onto Kissingers actual biography:

Half-Life 1 The Resonance Cascade. In the game scientists open a portal to another world and alien scum floods in changing Earth forever. In reality this is exactly what Kissinger did in the 70s. He "opened" China to the West, created a hyper-complex system of global ties and triggered processes that can never be stopped. He literally caused a geopolitical resonance cascade and we are dealing with the fallout right now. He is the Administrator who pushed the crystal into the spectrometer.

Half-Life 2 City 17 and the Combine. The world is taken over by the Combine. People are controlled by tech, suppression fields stop reproduction, they feed you water that makes you forget your past. In reality this is the Goolag. Kissinger and his technocrat buddies (like ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt) built a digital concentration camp. Cameras on every corner? Check. Dr. Breen broadcasting from screens about the greater good and merging with technology? Thats a collective image of Zuck and Schmidt. We are living in City 17 but instead of headcrabs we have TikTok algorithms sucking our brains out.

Half-Life Alyx The Vault. The whole point of Alyx is freeing an entity from a prison which turns out to be G-Man. In reality this is a metaphor for AI. For a long time AI was kept "in a box" inside closed Pentagon and Google labs. But in the late 2010s and early 2020s they opened the Vault. ChatGPT, neural networks, the genie is out of the bottle. We released it ourselves thinking it would save us but we just altered the timeline.

The 2021 Book is the Half-Life 3 script. Why didnt they make HL3 earlier? Because Kissinger kept the ending classified. But in 2021 right before he died he co-authored a book called The Age of AI and Our Human Future. This is literally the leaked design doc for HL3. Kissinger writes that future wars wont last years, they will last milliseconds because AI will be making the decisions. That is the lore-accurate explanation of the Seven Hour War. Humanity simply wont have time to react. He describes AI as an entity with an alien logic that humans cannot comprehend. He is literally describing the Combine Advisors.

Valve couldnt make Half-Life 3 until they had the source material. Once the old man leaked the ending in 2021 (the total transfer of power to the Algorithm) development was finally unfrozen. Kissinger beat this game first. In November 2023 he realized the main campaign was over, all achievements were unlocked, and he just logged off the server. The script is written. Im just waiting for the announcement now.


r/NeverBeGameOver 27d ago

Konami Suing Over Massive Metal Gear Solid 2 Source Code Leak | PDF | Defendant | Plaintiff

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r/NeverBeGameOver 27d ago

2 Choppers = 2 Ceiling Fans at OKB Zero

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Two helicopters collide together in Ground Zeroes

Ahab and Ishmael sleep side by side under two fans in the hospital

The two helicopters side by side at OKB Zero are the two hospital ceiling fans

Still Sleeping.

PEACE


r/NeverBeGameOver 27d ago

MGS1: Campbell said without Naomi they couldn’t complete the mission. Why not, if all the foxhounders were exposed to foxdie?šŸ¤”

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r/NeverBeGameOver Jun 22 '26

Wait, why?

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The second-to-last reveal of MGS2 is that the AIs have been funneling money into Philanthropy. This goes against their stated and demonstrated goals of shutting Snake down. Especially in 2009, when Ocelot states Snake was not an intended part of the S3 Plan, and Liquid states he invited him independently.

Is this explained in MGS4 at all? Did AL or one of the others decide to go rogue and not mention this to JD, GW, or whichever was formally in charge of S3? Was Liquid already manipulating the AIs' accounts to keep his brother in business?