We're a friendgroup of 5-6 players who slightly rotate, but with 2 core players every time since they are the most knowledgable and consistent in creating gamedays (We're all near 40y old).

While most of us love playing in general and it's all friendly, me and a few others of the occasional players prefer decks with boardstate, and the classic "I send creatures at your face and you respond" kind of players. The 2 main guys however, mainly although not always, play decks that mess with the rest of us without actually develop anything on board.
I can't pull all the deckstyles out of my head but it's:

- make it cost too much mana to attack them and decrease amount of mana per turn
- gift other players cards that throttle their development
- Storm decks that do nothing until they kill any or all of us in a single turn
- Graveyard decks that forces us to sac every turn or even every upkeep

And such. We've tried suggesting that we need to agree on a certain power level per deck so everyone has the same-ish decks, or to limit the amount of spell per turn per player to 3. But this is protested by the main guys in that they don't have fun limiting their deckbuilding and would rather not play or play something else then.
Which while fair, essentially would mean that gamedays for all of us would grind to a halt of the main guys would lose interest (Again we're all family dads so any gameday is better than no gameday).

So in the vein of "If you can't beat them, join them" I'd like recommendations for decks that mainly sit back and mess up the other players, while the only boarstate developed can be easily sacced or protected when necessary. bear in mind nearly every deck in our pod runs at least 2 forms of boardwipes.
I've been looking at some Death and Taxes decks which I understand are very unpopular to face.

The 3 EDH decks I play are Ur-Dragon, Orzhov counters with Ardbert as Commander and Teval Graveyard deck.

hello, I am pretty new to magic and have been wanting to make my own commander deck for a while, a while ago I started building this bracket three deck using alania that focuses on burn and spellslinger, I'm just not sure if it will work and I do not want to buy the cards before making sure it is good, here is the deck:
https://commandertemplate.com/decks/3922256f-7c01-4e66-a75a-b5b7f2891afd
deck list:

1 Alania, Divergent Storm (BLB) 327

1 Stormcatch Mentor (SOC) 331

1 Frolicking Familiar // Blow Off Steam (WOE) 226

1 Eon Frolicker (C20) 33

1 Coruscation Mage (BLB) 131

1 Pearl of Wisdom (BLB) 64

1 Otterball Antics (BLB) 63

1 Cyclone Summoner (PLST) KHM-52

1 Alania's Pathmaker (BLB) 123

1 Case of the Ransacked Lab (MKM) 45

1 Stormsplitter (BLB) 154

1 Sorcerer Class (AFR) 233

1 Swarm Intelligence (C21) 130

1 Crackle with Power (OTP) 22

1 Comet Storm (C20) 148

1 Prismari Command (SOC) 323

1 Guttersnipe (TDC) 217

1 Cinder Storm (A25) 126

1 Izzet Charm (DDJ) 21

1 Run Away Together (BLB) 67

1 Into the Flood Maw (BLB) 52

1 Calamitous Tide (BLB) 43

1 Splash Portal (BLB) 74

1 Frantic Search (TLE) 159

1 Seize the Spoils (KHM) 149

1 Opt (FDN) 512

1 Faithless Looting (TDC) 213

1 Deep Analysis (CMM) 86

1 Treasure Cruise (SOC) 205

1 Agate Assault (BLB) 122

1 Niv-Mizzet, Parun (CLB) 851

1 Curiosity (ISD) 49

1 Playful Shove (BLB) 145

1 Artist's Talent (BLB) 124

1 Fiery Inscription (LTR) 126

1 Kindlespark Duo (BLB) 142

1 Wizard's Lightning (DOM) 152

1 Blooming Blast (BLB) 126

1 Young Pyromancer (DDS) 20

1 Talrand, Sky Summoner (C15) 109

1 Tempest Angler (BLB) 235

1 Harnesser of Storms (BLB) 137

1 Thundertrap Trainer (BLB) 78

1 Lightshell Duo (BLB) 56

1 Valley Floodcaller (BLB) 79

1 Stormchaser's Talent (BLB) 75

1 Roar of the Crowd (MOR) 100

1 Balmor, Battlemage Captain (DMU) 196

1 Goblin Electromancer (GRN) 174

1 Sol Ring (MSC) 212

1 Izzet Signet (C20) 243

1 Commander's Sphere (VOC) 163

1 Mind Stone (DMR) 385

1 Reliquary Tower (M13) 227

1 Frostboil Snarl (SOC) 374

1 Izzet Boilerworks (C16) 302

1 Temple of Epiphany (C21) 322

1 Swiftwater Cliffs (FRF) 172

1 Sulfur Falls (SOC) 408

1 Shivan Reef (SOC) 404

1 Rolling Thunder (BFZ) 154

1 Three Tree City (PBLB) 260p

1 Seething Song (C21) 179

1 Negate (DTK) 65

1 Unsummon (M10) 79

1 Blustersquall (RTR) 30

1 Abrade (PLST) 2XM-114

1 Counterspell (DSC) 114

1 Reality Shift (SOC) 199

16 Island (BLB) 268

14 Mountain (BLB) 274

Recently played commander with some friends and was instantly hooked. I'm very new to MTG and wanted to try building a deck that I'll actually play, without dropping $1000+.....yet. Be brutally honest, I'd rather hear it than spend the money and need to completely rebuild it. The idea is token gen that feeds into a Valgavoth + Vito pairing. The support pieces are used to trigger both with the health gain + loss aspects.

https://moxfield.com/decks/kPBq6ANP3EmmlLRMKEFgbw

https://moxfield.com/decks/WtewvjM1IUSrVBGw4VatYg

There's some obvious improvements I cut when trying to keep the deck less than a used Xbox, like Deflecting Swat, but this deck list can be molded to your own collection of protection spells and Fogs. The important pieces are a 2-4 Etali - es que ramp package, with green protection instants, FOGS, red redirect spells, some card advantage, and a little bit of recursion- in an attempt to bring The Walls and/or Hornet Queen back from the grave to Library or Hand.

Let me know what you think!

Mana ramp and creature tutors are the brightest green stars in Duel Commander. But is there something else this color can offer us? Let's check out the last staples in this series of articles and get to know this format a little better!

New to this but true to this please see OP and any assistance is much obliged

Turbo Spirits • (Boros Commander deck) • Archidekt

Working on refining my turbo/combo Quintorius deck. The goal of the deck is to use Wheel effects to discard many cards per turn to trigger Currency Converter effects, which trigger Quintorius. Using Haste enablers, token doublers and other anthem effects, I look to kill a player ASAP and then have extra combats and resilient boards to finish the other players.

For the combo, it requires 5 pieces. A wheel, a Currency Converter, a haste enabler, Quintorius and a pump/evasion piece. This is a lot to make work so the deck uses several tutors and recursion tools to get combo pieces, also the "combo" functions without all pieces and can play a fair midrange plan if needed.

Being that there are so many moving parts and ratios for this deck, the deckbuilding has been challenging. Looking for any insight, advice or suggestions to make this deck be more fun. One area I am on the fence about is the ramp package. With my ramp package, I have a ~52% chance of dropping Quintorius on turn 3, which is important im B3, as by turn 4 he most likely will die to combat without protection. Also, like any combo deck that uses combat, we need to be a bit faster than the midrange piles that might be able to use blockers to stall us.

Hey, new MTG player, big fallout fan here. This is the first deck that I’ve ‘built’ and I really need some help. Wondering if anyone can help me finish off my deck (need 7 cards). Also, are there any easy cuts, or changes, I should make before I confirm my card order?

I guess with Mindcrank and Ascension it’ll be a B3? Trying to focus on small mills to make mothman big, but also not opposed to big mills to piss my friends off. Does anyone have any land recommendations as well? Thanks!

https://moxfield.com/decks/kI-K4aQrmkuKhrI7pNJ9uw

This is my response to losing against my lgs alot lol with untuned monstrosities. So I rebuilt the commander i had locked up. Looking for feedback. The store and pods are proxy friendly so no price limit needed. Let there be discards Friends.

Rough goal is large wheels repeatedly and to finish with labman or pummel with discard/draw pings. Probably would be a more efficient nekusar list but all feedback appreciated

https://moxfield.com/decks/clr_GpZvZEi-oG3zV34AnA

Hello, I am new to MTG and EDH. Have only been playing for a little bit over a month. I have created my first deck using cards from my childhood, those gifted to me by friends, a commander and some other cards pulled from a pack aaaand then spending too much money on singles at a handful of local game shops as I swapped things out until I felt insane. My primary goal was to learn more about the game while making a decent deck! Would love to hear from anyone who has made a similar deck or just has had similar experiences with learning deck building. Really loving this gosh darn game and I love my conquistador vampire babe commander.

Anyways here is my deck… please enjoy yelling at me for being a noob and making some glaringly noobish decisions that my noob eyes cannot see.

Big draws, big heals, big commander babe aaaand a few cards thrown in that come up with her, some instants and sorceries for sniping dangerous looking enemy creatures and so on so forth.

1 Amalia Benavides Aguirre
1 Ajani's Pridemate
1 Basilica Guards
1 Blood Artist
1 Daxos, Blessed by the Sun
1 Deep-Cavern Bat
1 Denethor, Ruling Steward
1 Elas il-Kor, Sadistic Pilgrim
1 Essence Channeler
1 Frontline Medic
1 Haliya, Guided by Light
1 Helpful Hunter
1 Hinterland Sanctifier
1 Kambal, Consul of Allocation
1 Kingpin's Pet
1 Lunarch Veteran
1 MacCready, Lamplight Mayor
1 Marauding Blight-Priest
1 Nine-Lives Familiar
1 Nullpriest of Oblivion
1 Obzedat, Ghost Council
1 Sanguine Syphoner
1 Shattered Angel
1 Soul Warden
1 Soul's Attendant
1 Starscape Cleric
1 Suture Priest
1 Vampire Soulcaller
1 Welcoming Vampire
1 Zoraline, Cosmos Caller
1 Elspeth Tirel
1 Sorin Markov
1 Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord
1 Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord
1 Akroma's Will
1 Foolish Fate
1 Go for the Throat
1 Harsh Sustenance
1 Inkshield
1 Invoke the Divine
1 Path to Exile
1 Release to Memory
1 Silverquill Charm
1 Village Rites
1 Aggressive Negotiations
1 Eaten Alive
1 Murderous Compulsion
1 Profane Tutor
1 Vindicate
1 Heraldic Banner
1 Illusionist's Bracers
1 Orzhov Signet
1 Sol Ring
1 Ajani's Welcome
1 Call of the Ring
1 Case of the Uneaten Feast
1 Dawn of Hope
1 Eternal Thirst
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Sanguine Bond
1 Soul Snare
1 Stormplain Detainment
1 Command Tower
1 Fisk Tower
1 Midgar, City of Mako
1 Mudflat Village
1 Path of Ancestry
14 Plains
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Rogue's Passage
1 Scoured Barrens
1 Shattered Sanctum
13 Swamp
1 Temple of Silence
1 Thriving Moor

I'm building [[ Tannuk, Steadfast Second ]] and I have [[ Confusion in the Ranks ]].

So my question is when I have exchanged a warped permanent with an opponents permanent, what happens to my warped permanent?

It gets exiled at the end step and the player I switched with gets to cast it from exile? Or do I still have access to it from exile?

I have a Sam and Frodo "Food and Fellowship" Commander deck and i would love to run Butterbur

But i have no idea what they where thinking when they designed the card, hes soooo bad.

Like if we compare him to Sam, Loyal Attendant

So, i want to modefy Butter to make him more playable and i would love to hear your guys ideas, you could change hes cmc or the text box, tho make it minor

My own idea would be to make him cost 2 less colorless but hes a 1/1 or that he creates 2 food instead of 1, maybe they come trapped?

Please critic my ideas to if you think its to good/bad

Thoughs?

I'm building a budget Commander deck based on Silver Surfer. I wanted it to have insane ramp and really just ramp and protect Galactus when I get him out. How good would y'all say my deck is for budget, and what bracket, because I feel like this deck would ramp too fast for a bracket 2, and also are there any tips that could improve the deck https://moxfield.com/decks/eIafAaf06Hut3YiO6tDJ7A

Evening everyone! This last weekend I went to my second commander night. Still learning how to play and very brand new. I have the Temur Roar precon from Tarkir Dragonstorm. I’m loving my deck but I’m running into some issues, and curious on how I can overcome these challenges. I’m using Ureni as the commander

1st challenge: My deck is all precon and I want to learn how my deck plays, but in a few of my rounds I find myself struggling to pull lands/mana. My last round it was turn 6 before another opponent played a card that allowed everyone to discard their hand and draw 7. I was finally able to play. Not sure if I need to increase my lands or what to do. The deck has 37 lands so maybe I’m just terrible at shuffling?😂

2nd challenge: let’s say I do add more lands or maybe a card I want to add like Blue Dragon, or Green Dragon…how do I decide which cards to remove? I know of EDREC, but not really sure how to utilize it. I’m also hesitant on relying on something like that because I see it says to add Miiyrm, and I want to play, but I’m not wanting to overpower my deck to where I’m that much further behind on knowing how to play my deck…if that makes sense. I want to “compete” but winning isn’t my goal right now. Learning and having fun is. Hopefully this kind of makes sense. Thanks in advance.

Hello all!

Im newish to commander, very new into deckbuilding, and i was wondering if i could get some tips on how to better optimise these two decks. Im trying to keep myself as low-budget as possible, preferring not to go past $100-200 AUD if possible!

I've really enjoyed using my Precon but i found its got too many tokens/copies to track and becomes a touch too overwhelming for casual play.

Im also big on picking a commander i am aesthetically drawn to - Hence the Knights/Cowboy choices!

https://archidekt.com/decks/24543523/knight_equip_attempt1 - This is my attempt at a Knight/Equipment deck.

https://archidekt.com/decks/24170620/kellan_the_kid_attempt_1 - This is my go at using the Kellan the Kid commander, for some fun and varied spell casting not from hand.

My main struggle is it doesn't seem like either has a strong wincon or a way to get to a strong win.

Any advice on how i can either restructure or add/remove some cards would be greatly appreciated!

Trying to convert draft night result into a commander deck. Pretty new to Magic and tried to compile a mix of other Maralen decks I’ve seen. Not pushing for uber optimized, just trying to build a fun fae/elf themed deck for casual play at home.

Any glaring holes you see? (Haven’t touched the lands to bring in non-basics yet). Looking for some input like “dude you totally forgot to account for [critically important function of all good decks]” or “why the heck did you put so much of [x], kill half those cards and find [y] instead.”

Some cards are in this just because I already have them from draft. I know they aren’t the absolute best.

https://archidekt.com/decks/24471613/maralen_fae_and_elves

Hey people of reddit,

For month I was super hyped about playing the wise mothman. My Pod is kind of new to commander, as am I, and we try to keep it casual with mid/high bracket 2 decks.

So today i played my Mothman and the excitement was over quite fast. Since the deck is build to mill regularly to go wide und tall it interrupted the flow of the game heavily due to all those triggers in opponents turns.

So here is the decklist. Do you have any advice on how to minimize my friends frustration?

Mill is no problem in general. Repeticious, incremental mill was very frustrating though and took a long time.

https://moxfield.com/decks/BQKHRvNvwUCJFe6NcITHyg

New to the game and to the format, if anyone passing by would be willing just to give this a quick scan and tell me if you think it's generally B2, that would be so helpful. It obviously doesn't have the game changers or anything that would make it automatically B3, but I know it can be considered B3 or even B4 anyway just depending on consistency and the power level and such. I don't feel as though I am a great person to evaluate the strength of it so I'm really not sure. It's just an omnath locus of all list where im trying to get value out of omnaths second ability and slam big wubrg creatures with the ramp and the help from omnath letting me carry over mana. Also no swamps cause omnath has me covered. (partly a meme, partly not lol.) I have heard some people say that omnath isn't even the best commander for what I'm trying to do which may be true but... Idk I like him hahaha. Let me know ur thoughts and thanks to any who give it a look :^)

https://moxfield.com/decks/e6WeAQACZn-2PHSD6xcBGg

Wondering if anyone could take a quick peak at my deck and provide some tips or upgrade recommendations? This is my first deck. Aiming for B4, maybe B3.

Thank you!

https://moxfield.com/decks/l9YBFLTI-0uS6scBQ6R4UQ

So I want to build a ninja token deck around Leonardo, the balance. So I’m looking for cards that can create ninja tokens, mass produce tokens and some good ninja style cards on general.

Also not sure what the best partner card would be for this style? 🤔

I have a few good ninja cards so far from the turtles set, a Kaido planes walker I like, clan of the foot soldier enchantment I think it is, so looking to expand on these really!

Would appreciate any suggestions ya’ll have for me! 😀

Hey guys, before starting, I warn you, that I’m relatively new to mtg and my collection was made by opening boosters.. and I know it’s “losing money” but I like it haha

Well, I assembled this deck (which according to DeckCheck is a weak bracket 3) to play instead of using the Quandrix Unlimited precon, but I know it’s missing some things, about 2 board wipes, about 2 mana rocks, and changing creatures/instants/sorcerys, but to be honest, I don’t know how to improve it, what pieces to change to improve the deck’s synergy and increase my chances of winning (or not being last)

Explaining the process that led me to create the deck.. I wanted to make a mono blue, but the legendary mono blue creatures I have, none caught my attention to be the commander, so I chose to use The Mighty Thor, Jane Foster using white to help in removal and Turtles Forever to get the legendarys in need.

With all this said, can you help me by indicating cards that I can exchange to improve the deck?

https://moxfield.com/decks/8HlK4ixGJUKtyl3-pocu6g