r/HistoricalWhatIf Jan 14 '20

Some rules clarifications and reflections from your mod team

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So these were things we were discussing on modmail a few months ago, but never got around to implementing; I'm seeing some of them become a problem again, so we're pulling the trigger.

The big one is that we have rewritten rule 5. The original rule was "No "challenge" posts without context from the OP." We are expanding this to require some use of the text box on all posts. The updated rule reads as follows:

Provide some context for your post

To increase both the quality of posts and the quality of responses, we ask that all posts provide at least a sentence or two of context. Describe your POD, or lay out your own hypothesis. We don't need an essay, but we do need some effort. "Title only" posts will be removed, and repeat offenders will be banned. Again, we ask this in order to raise the overall quality level of the sub, posts and responses alike.

I think this is pretty self-explanatory, but if anyone has an issue with it or would like clarification, this is the space for that discussion. Always happy to hear from you.


Moving on, there's a couple more things I'd like to say as long as I've got the mic here. First, the mod team did briefly discuss banning sports posts, because we find them dumb, not interesting, and not discussion-generating. We are not going to do that at this time, but y'all better up your game. If you do have a burning desire to make a sports post, it better be really good; like good enough that someone who is not a fan of that sport would be interested in the topic. And of course, it must comply with the updated rule 5.


EDIT: via /u/carloskeeper: "There is already https://www.reddit.com/r/SportsWhatIf/ for sports-related posts." This is an excellent suggestion, and if this is the kind of thing that floats your boat, go check 'em out.


Finally, there has been an uptick of low-key racism, "race realism," eugenics crap, et cetera lately. It's unfortunate that this needs to be said, but we have absolutely zero chill on this issue and any of this crap will buy you an immediate and permanent ban. So cut the crap.


r/HistoricalWhatIf 2h ago

What if the Jacobites had been restored to power?

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How differently would Britain and the British empire have developed?


r/HistoricalWhatIf 2h ago

What if Henry Ford had been a Stalinist instead of a Nazi?

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It’s fairly well known that Ford was a Nazi sympathizing antisemite. He even received a medal from Hitler. Of course he enormously supported the US war effort against Germany, but that didn’t change his general sympathies with Nazi ideology.

However, he was very similar to earlier Utopian Socialists like Robert Owen, with a lot of concern for the conditions of his workers. This took some unhealthy turns to surveilling their personal lives to ensure moral behavior, but also involved providing a lot of amenities and better working conditions than competitors.

It’s less well known that the USSR under Lenin and Stalin practically worshipped Ford and similar industrialist figures. They hired Ford to build an auto factory in 1929 and there’s tons of Communist literature from the era praising Ford, Frank and Lilian Gilbreth and Frederick Taylor. Stalin is quoted saying “The combination of the Russian revolutionary sweep with American efficiency is the essence of Leninism.” Lenin was infatuated with Ford’s innovations in the assembly line and scientific transformation of work. Trotsky and others deeply admired it. Even some anarchist thinkers at the time were critically inspired by the general principles he represented.

This wasn’t just inside the USSR, Diego Rivera said “Marx made theory... Lenin applied it with his sense of large-scale social organization... And Henry Ford made the work of the socialist state possible.”

So what happens if this one sided love affair was actually reciprocated? If Ford embraces his portrayal as a Historically Progressive Bourgeois and adopts a form of communist ideology (that leaves room for “great men of vision” like himself of course)?


r/HistoricalWhatIf 22h ago

What would Have Happened if Hitler Won The Election of 1932?

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Hypothetically let’s say in this scenario after a close electoral vote Hitler singlehandedly manages to win because of that what would have happened? How would this change World War 2? What would Hitler do in this scenario now that he’s officially in charge of Germany Earlier? Do you folks think? Let me know in the comments


r/HistoricalWhatIf 1d ago

What if Hitler's big chanche: Battle of Ardennes would be a german victory?

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Could that reduce the soldiers of Americans and Brits?
Could it give a chance to revive the Third Reich?
Or this is only one victory which get back early on?

Ardennes would really hurt for the americans and brits if germany would won that. Is it possible that the Third Reich would be surviving the western front? Or at the end soviet union pushes more into europe and europe becomes communist? I leave these questions to the Alt-History experts.


r/HistoricalWhatIf 1d ago

What if Siam was fully colonized by Britain

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Okay In our timeline, Siam (modern Thailand) famously remained the only Southeast Asian nation to avoid formal European colonization. It played Britain and France against each other, modernized under Kings Rama V (Chulalongkorn) and Rama VI, and kept its independence through shrewd diplomacy and painful territorial concessions.

In this timeline, things go differently during the 1893 Paknam Incident. A more aggressive British gunboat diplomacy (fueled by heightened imperial anxiety after the French forward policy in Laos) leads to a direct naval clash. A misunderstood signal results in the Siamese fort firing on British vessels. Britain, fresh from its victories elsewhere and eager to secure the Malay Peninsula and buffer against French Indochina, responds with overwhelming force. The Royal Navy blockades Bangkok, lands marines, and forces the Siamese court into a humiliating treaty that turns Siam into the Crown Colony of Britannic Siam by 1895.


r/HistoricalWhatIf 2d ago

What if the US is a constitutional monarchy like Canada, Australia, and New Zealand?

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What if the US didn't rebel against Britain and instead ended up like Canada, Australia, and New Zealand having King Charles III as their ceremonial monarch?


r/HistoricalWhatIf 2d ago

What if tiger was available in 1937?

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Tiger 1 Avaliable in 1937?! Anchluss would be easier or the fuell will run out?


r/HistoricalWhatIf 2d ago

What would happen if Germany had a civil war in 1945? Would be the treatry less harsch?

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r/HistoricalWhatIf 2d ago

What if Japan attacked the Soviets at the same time as Germany in WW2?

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r/HistoricalWhatIf 2d ago

What if the 1933 Business Plot succeeded?

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r/HistoricalWhatIf 2d ago

What if The Great War, ended in stalemate?

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What do you guys think would've happen? Can you confirm your source? I made an alt - history out of this on Pax Historia tho (The Last Standoff) but i want histrocial experts to confirm my alt history. Can you guys help?


r/HistoricalWhatIf 2d ago

What if Germany joined the Allies in 1937?

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And would be the protector of central europe?


r/HistoricalWhatIf 3d ago

What if the potato had never reached Europe?

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Population growth slows dramatically. No Irish population boom, smaller armies, different industrialization timeline. What could it really look like? Understandably, potatoes were a major food source where crops normally struggled to grow such as the sandy Irish coasts. How does this affect European development?


r/HistoricalWhatIf 3d ago

Could the Soviets have won (the European front) of WW2 without the 5 years program?

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Basically what's written in the title. We all know the massive human cost the soviet industrialization in the 30s had om the population, but could they have beaten the Wehrmacht without it? (For clarification I'm not communist much less stalinist, nor am I trying to justify anything)


r/HistoricalWhatIf 4d ago

2026 Mexico is suddenly teleported to WW1; would the US lose to Mexico if Mexico invaded them as per the Zimmerman Telegram?

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2026 Mexican military vs 1917 US military


r/HistoricalWhatIf 4d ago

What if Mao Zedong died suddenly in 1967?

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How would Mao Zedong dying in 1967 change things? Who would succeed him? What would become of China? How would this affect the world?


r/HistoricalWhatIf 3d ago

Would the American revolution succeed without the help from the French?

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r/HistoricalWhatIf 4d ago

What if France was the dominant European power during the Scramble for Africa?

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Lets imagine France reforms its monarchy before revolution

happens and also win the Seven Years War (so I imagined the French also hold India in this timeline)

In this scenario, how may the Scramble for Africa looked like?


r/HistoricalWhatIf 4d ago

What if the Archduke’s driver didn’t drive past the assassin?

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r/HistoricalWhatIf 5d ago

What If Germany Won The Second Battle Of The Marne

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What if the German plan suceeded and they took Reims and opened the road to Paris and perhaps took Paris what happens afterwards with Germany being in state it was in late 1918 while also taking Paris.


r/HistoricalWhatIf 5d ago

What if Spain kept his colony until the 20th century ?

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Spain colonies in America got lost because the colonies revolted against Spain during the Napoleonic war but what if they kept their colonies like the French and British in Africa ?


r/HistoricalWhatIf 5d ago

In the early 1980s, Israel drew up plans for a pre-emptive strike against Pakistan's nuclear facilities, nuclear scientists, and pro-nuclear politicians, in tandem with India. The plug was pulled on the plans due to India's concerns about the ensuing war. What if Israel followed through instead?

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r/HistoricalWhatIf 5d ago

What if the Cold War ended with only one side facing nuclear annihilation

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To a certain extent, this mentality was persistent on the elites of both superpowers. Almost every action taken was meant to have nuclear leverage over another

For example, America stationed nukes in Western Europe which gave them geographic strategic advantage until the Soviet Union tried to use Cuba. It didn’t matter since nukes advanced enough so that distance didn’t matter

Alternatively the Space Race was partially motivated by the Soviets to have nukes launched from space, only to America to catch up and win the race.

So anyways, what if one side had enough nuclear leverage to the point that the Cold War goes nuclear, except they actually instead of also facing destruction.


r/HistoricalWhatIf 5d ago

How would the world be different if anonymity was never permitted on the Internet?

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What if regulators jumped on the Internet early on back in the 1980s and required you to use your true identity for everything you did online. Would the world be a better or worse off?