I recently got into philosophy as well and have always loved harry potter, saw this book recommended by a british youtuber and gave it a chance. I got hooked right away. I love how it is written and it leaves me craving for more. I can’t wait to see how it stretches Philospher’s Stone into 112 chapters!

I was just thinking about this, it is clear that by the time Harry figures out that Quirrel is voldemort voldy already knows that Harry knows that Voldy's alive, but I'm unsure at what point exactly

Polls not enabled for this sub as far as I can tell so please be rational and upvote pre-existing comments that match your view.

In se answers should range from "Sees it as a waste of time, prefers reading & thinking" to "Considers it the king of sports" (and everything in between.

This was a marvelous work <3

I listened to the audiobook version of it but WOW was it an entrancing story.

Are there any plans for a continuation?
Perhaps (SPOILERS FOR THE WORK):
- Granger's next steps?
- Malfoy's new future unfurled and the new powers he'd employ as a rationalist thereafter?
- The Bayesian conspiracy and it's findings which Malfoy introduced some folks into (that never got mentioned afterwards)?
- A story concerning inquisitive wizards trying to reveal the mysteries of Potter's noted past actions?
- Snape's new future and how Potter's past influence'd affect it?

“Find portraits who knew a married Squib couple - don’t make that face, Draco, it’s important information. Just ask recent portraits who are Gryffindors or something. Find portraits who knew a married Squib couple well enough to know the names of all their children. Write down the name of each child and whether that child was a wizard, a Squib, or a Muggle.” I thought the difference between squib and muggle was only parentage, but this is already known in the context of the question? What am I missing?

Leaving aside how the metaphysics and social structures of the wizarding world itself may have shaped his psychology (e.g. the existence of ancient lore that grants absurd personal power differentials possibly worsening his narcissism in his most formative years), how do you think HPMOR's Tom Riddle would choose to live his life in an entirely muggle world?

He's completely sociopathic; a master manipulator; highly intelligent, disciplined, and motivated; contemptuous of idiots and immensely prideful; he values competence over status; yearns for peer intelligences to interact with; and is still petrified of death and obsessed with immortality.

What field of knowledge would Riddle choose to specialize in? Modern science is too broad and deep to allow for the existence of true polymaths of the stature that Dumbledore and Voldemort held in the wizarding world, so Riddle would have to pick a lane.

Would muggle Riddle be as criminally prolific as wizard Riddle, or is the reward not worth the risk?

Leaving his exact age indeterminate, let's suppose he's younger than he would be canonically (i.e. 71 years old in 1998) and just say that he's somewhere in his adult physical or professional prime (whatever age range you consider that to be) in the year 2026.

Would he be famous enough for most of the world to know his name, or would he prefer relative anonymity? What would be his attitude towards generative AI? Would you vote for him in an election?

"The stern old healer had then turned, and started to say to Professor Quirrell that he was absolutely not to overexert himself or... upset himself... Madam Pomfrey had trailed off, hurriedly turned around, and fled the room." HPMOR Chapter 65 - Contagious Lies

I don't understand what Quirrell did to make Madam Pomfrey leave. Was it just a scary look, or did it involve magic? Either I'm missing something or it's just left to the readers interpretation.

I am a new reader ,recently bought the books and I have read the books ,I have many questions but two primarily:

1.Repeatedly it was said that Moody could take out his eye and put it back in at times ,now if the eye was enchanted in such a way that it could help him see ,how did it work.when.it was detached

Like how did it send the signals to the brain when it was detached completely

Was this answered by J K Rowling

2.If someone has a living portrait of himself while he is alive ,and the portrait listens to something while the person doesn't ,does he automatically know what the portrait heard or does the portrait have to tell the living person

I’m interested in studying Harry Potter from a writing and storytelling perspective, not just as a fan of the series.

I’ve read the books about a dozen times, and over the years I started noticing many details about the way the series was written and constructed. I find the process behind the books very interesting, and I would like to discuss these aspects with people who are interested in analyzing how the story was built.

However, I have never found a community specifically focused on this kind of discussion.

Does anyone know if there is already a subreddit dedicated to reverse engineering J.K. Rowling’s writing or analyzing the construction of the Harry Potter books?

If there is no subreddit focused on this, would anyone here be interested in a community about reverse engineering stories and studying how great books are constructed?

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I’m interested in studying Harry Potter from a writing and storytelling perspective, not just as a fan of the series.

I’ve read the books about a dozen times, and over the years I started noticing many details about the way the series was written and constructed. I find the process behind the books very interesting, and I would like to discuss these aspects with people who are interested in analyzing how the story was built.

However, I have never found a community specifically focused on this kind of discussion.

Does anyone know if there is already a subreddit dedicated to reverse engineering J.K. Rowling’s writing or analyzing the construction of the Harry Potter books?

If there is no subreddit focused on this, would anyone here be interested in a community about reverse engineering stories and studying how great books are constructed?

There still exist people in this world that have lived untouched by the entire original Harry Potter phenomena. I recommended HPMOR to such a person and they said they don't know anything about HP. So I thought of recommending something else by Yudkowsky but I couldn't think of which one? The Dark Lord Answers is not freely available online, Three World's Collide is more about different moralities based on evolutionary history of the species rather than teaching rationality to the reader, similarly Girl Corrupted by the Internet is just a light entertaining story. Project Lawful being a recommendation is it's own problem.

Is there some good recommendation here? I am looking for something explicitly trying to teach rationality, not just having rational characters, and wetting their appetite for HPMOR.

https://youtu.be/lz-Vy5pMvDI?t=1154

*Not technically HPMOR related. I was just reminded of the trunk / gold scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhiGv7oVfAY

I synchronized these two fan adaptations:

1. Art by hunternif https://hpmorcomic.com/
2. Narration from Eneasz Brodski's https://hpmorpodcast.com/

It's absurd by design for the sake of humor. The mechanics of some things may be slightly off from cannon. It was written just for the fun of CONSTANT VIGILANCE!

Alastor Moody always slept with his back to a wall, except when he didn't.

You can't always trust walls, even if shielded. There are always ways to get through. One wizard with knowledge of muggle heat sensing googles could find you and cast the killing curse straight through the wall as you slept. This was one of his own personal favorite assassination methods, but he did not need muggle devices to see people on the other side of a wall.

He had watched people's patterns enough to see how routine can bring them down. Hell, he had personally exploited the routines of Dark Wizards many times. He knew for a fact how effective that was, people are generally creatures of habit.

He had been awake a few minutes now, he remained laying down and pretending to sleep as the last of his wandless, wordless detection charms provided negative results. He then reached into his pocket, in a way that looked like a sleeping person shifting positions. He clicked the muggle pen he had in the pocket, it was an enchanted device to cast an anti-confundus on himself, in case he was confunded to think his test results were null. Then he repeated the previous spells, in a different order, a second time.

He did not uncover himself and get up as you would normally. He made himself visible now, an attacker would see that as him dropping his guard. With a pinch of will, a tactical roll and a pop he apparated around the corner of the hallway, which had been facing the bed. He was invisible once again. An attacker would be in a perfect ambush point. He would now be in the perfect point of ambush for an ambusher. Yet there was nobody there. Unless... He spun his eye around in his head. Nobody behind him or around, as he perceived.

His magic probed the tripwires in his wards, they were subtle. Although there was one tripwire specifically designed to activate when Moody himself probed it. He cast a reflexive shield to guard him from the backlash of colorless magic area effect. His wards were still active and untouched. He did not need to test them, but nobody needed to know that. Thanks to some lore Albus had passed down to him. His wards were impenetrable in the sense that he would know instantly if someone probed them. Unless someone had knowledge even Albus did not, which they probably did. All the same, redundancy was key.

He started to make his way to the kitchen, The Eye of Vance did not see anything amiss. Of course, he would not consume anything from the kitchen for breakfast, too easy to poision him that way. The enemy would likely also deduce this, and not bother to try. Still, he was following what would look like a predictable human pattern to a less sophisticated enemy. Wake up, go to kitchen.

Sometimes he pretended to go to the bathroom first. Though he cleared his bowels with a spell, sitting on the toilet was an opening an enemy may take, and he was prepared; the toilet would act almost like a Floo channel when activated and simply flush him out of the house and then self destruct with enough force to bring the house down.

Once in the kitchen, he rapidly recast a number of his own personally devised security charms. He often switched the order he cast them, sometimes he left some out, or added other new ones. This morning he cast a spell which would detect any lingering odors in the air which were not present the last time it was cast, such as body odor or magical creature secretions. Another spell would chime him if there were finger prints that did not match his own. Though it wouldn't be HARD to fabricate his fingerprints, but most wizards would not think to do such, except the ones that would...

After getting The Eye of Vance Moody had started looking into other magics which were related to the other senses. He did not need to cast the next one, he simply flipped a knut and it landed on heads. So he did cast his echolocation feedback charm, which as far as he knew could see through all methods of invisibility as long as the wizard was tangible. He had not run into any spells which made a wizard intangible, but if he could concieve it, someone else probably had already and devised such a spell. He flipped the knut again, heads. He wondered if he should STILL cast the other spell anyways, but decided not to, this time.

He was not as morally adverse to ritual magic as Albus was, and thus had no qualms with sacrificing the total sensory perception of one of the Carrow's cousins after catching him. It's not like the man had remained... Like that... For long. Moody had in that moment doubled the power of his own senses and his brain's ability to perceive these increased senses, it was almost an overload. If he wasn't already accustom to the extra information his brain took from his Magical Eye, the sesory explosion would have been overwhelming enough to drive a man mad. He of course had removed the eye before his ritual. The device was of ancient power already, unlikely to be affected, but it still may have interacted in some strange way.

His spell casting was done, and nothing seemed wrong. That's exactly when things can go wrong in the worst way. There was no point remaining in this disposable home for any longer. He stepped to the side and apparated to a new place. Not next door, but a few houses down.

He would watch the house he departed from for a half hour. He pulled out a mundane muggle binocular and spied the house for a half hour before he was satisfied nobody had found it, or at least that they were not going to move on it this morning.

Moody walked over to a wall, behind a false wall, and found the pin sticking out where he left it. He had enchanted it the last time he could be as certain as he could be that he was acting of his own free will. His magic told him that the pin was untouched. The pin was a button, and when pressed it cast a large number of "anti-spells" on himself, to rid any confusion or suggestion charms. This was redundant, but there was no harm in being redundant, as long as sometimes he neglected to be.

Once he was mildly satistified he was acting of his OWN free will, he walked over to the theif's downfall he set up and passed through.

He gritted his teeth and prepared himself for what came next. He pointed his wand at himself; "Cruico". It had taken work to self cast this spell. He wouldn't have thought it possible, until he received 'reliable' intel that Bellatrix could cast it on herself.

He had first preformed the curse on himself because he wasn't certain if criminals could avoid the pain in some way while pretending that they are in agony. Even occlumency was not enough to avoid the pain, as the spell worked on a body level more than a mind level, even though the mind is what perceived the bodies pain. There was some mechanic there he could take advantage of, yet he had not arrived at what seemed the right answer. He let the thought percolate in the back of his mind.

Albus was the only person he might have trusted to cast the curse on him. Of course the man would never, even if he could cast it, even to shore up security measures. Not to mention it would require Albus taking an unbreakable vow to not hold the curse for more than 5 seconds as well, incase somehow Albus had been hoodwinked. Then it would need hours of verification spells, running a blood test and other methods he would not even list in his own mind, to verify Dumbledore was Dumbledore.

So Alastor had to learn how to cast it on himself. This is how he learned that it is indeed possible to slowly build not a total block, but a 'resistance' to the curse for at least a few moments using all of his will power.

A possessing 'spirit' however, if there was one, would have to also experience the pain. (Unless the books lied, or there were books he had not studied, which there absolutely were). In that moment, no matter how deep it was in him, it SHOULD in theory flinch from the pain. For a powerful mage, it may only cause a microsecond of flinch, but that would be enough for Alastor to notice. Even if such a spirit could withstand it as he long as he could (up to 7 seconds), that flinch would be all he needed to activate the exorcism curse that was previously enchanted into his toe ring.

He could break his toe in a fraction of a second without raising his wand. Any ghost, spirit, soul or any other entity which had him hostage would be displaced. Unless they had forced him disabled the ring...

He had to call in almost ALL of his favors with the unspeakables to get access to some of their tomes on spirit magic. Once Albus had made him aware of the entire field, it had opened up a whole new set of vulnerabilities he was unwilling to knowingly possess. He even knew a thing or two about Horcrux's which he never told Albus, and had also used a reversible obliviate to rid himself of the knowledge. He had told Albus that much, which was probably a mistake but someone had to reverse it if the information ever was needed.

Oddly enough, while the torture curse was near blinding pain for those seconds he had grown to almost enjoy the after effects of a very brief torture curse. Having every muscle in your body clench so hard they almost tore from the tendons was a far better stretching routine than any he had used before.

He could now convince himself that he had a moment he compose himself and relax in the early morning drowsiness.

He leapt down to the floor and rolled in the opposite direction of his jump, and fired off a wide area stunner. When you relax is when they get you.

It seemed that so far this morning nobody was directly threatening him. Unless they wanted to build a sense of false security in him, ha! Not bloody likely. Yet still possible...

Imagine... If Moody himself was Voldemort, it's the last thing they'd expect. Which made it too obvious but also plausible.

Moody tore his own mind apart with legitimacy, searching for any crack to allow for intrusion. It was a pointless effort if Voldemort was in him, that one was far better at mind magic, and could hide himself surely. Moody simply hoped that the constant vigilance would make Voldy think it was too much effort to bother, if he ever made the attempt.

He cast his patronus charm and diagnosed it with a muggle brightness detector. If he was possessed, he could probably still cast it, but it would also likely dim by some small degree in the first moment of it's appearance. A half hour of spell casting later Moody was fairly sure he was not Voldemort, or that it was what Voldemort wanted him to think.

The prophecy says that harry will vanquish the dark lord, and that he has a power that "the dark lord knows not". When harry first shows his partial transfiguration to dumbledore, he asks that he doesn't show it to anyone. For breaking the rules of transfiguration is unique, and thus a power voldemort knows not. And he indeed uses it against him in the final exam.

But also, harry says the prophecy cannot be alluding to this, because voldemort has simply dismissed muggle sciences as being a waste of time. But if he wished, he could study the right material and thus learn how to do partial transfiguration. Then it would not be "power he knows not", harry figures it's something beyond his grasp, even if he were to learn about its existence.

Something else that would also fit is Flitwick's Stuporfy. Harry also uses it to bring down voldemort, and is a secret spell voldemort wouldn't have known, since it's Flitwick's invention he kept for himself.

But if he harry can learn that, voldemort can learn it too, back to the previous statement that this can't be "power he knows not".

Soooo what did i miss ?

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I think Moody especially would be interesting, a really funny conversation that you can never be paranoid enough

In his experimentation phase, Harry recognizes early on that magic (at the very least seems to) violate thermodynamics.

His next obvious step should be trying to bootstrap the wizard industrial singularity.

I guess the Doylist answer is pretty obvious, infinite energy makes you nigh omnipotent and we can't have that.

(optional goal: Blow their arses off at first lecture like you did to Draco with moon landing)

Edit: good point by other user, Harry won't probably have time for teaching, so imagine you're just a random from muggle family and have above average knowledge about the Muggle world than other Muggleborn seem to have.

Before I created you, I invoked a curse upon myself and all other Tom Riddles who would descend from me. A curse to enforce that none of us would threaten the others' immortality, so long as the other made no attempt upon our own.

Doesn't that seem weirdly redundant?

Clause 2

so long as the other made no attempt upon our own

unbinds Tom B in case Tom A attacks Tom B, but clause 1

enforce that none of us would threaten the others' immortality

already prevents Tom A's first strike.

Then, of course, Harry firststrikes with the gun because clause 1 does not apply to him because reasons. But I find it unbelievable Voldy could have preticted that situation and therefore make his curse extra redundant.