The only information i can find is the old owners posts on gunbords from 2011. I do believe it was made in Germany around the 1920s however it’s missing the german proof marks just has the makers stamps.

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On May 4, 1949, the then largest Hong Kong Police vessel, Police Launch No.1 departed from the Marine Police dockyards to head into Mirs Bay, northeast Hong Kong for its regular patrol mission. At the time, the Hong Kong-Chinese border was an extremely dangerous place, there were many cases of pirate attacks, armed thugs and even communist militias crossing the border to kill police officers and taking their weapons. As a result, officers stationed at the border were very heavily armed, inspectors stationed there were even trained to use Bren guns, grenades and 3-inch mortars. In this instance, however, it would be two officers who launched the attack.

The launch was commanded by a British inspector and a sub-inspector, with 21 crew members on board. Around 2 a.m. on May 6, two of the crew members, the mutineers arrived to their duty post, which was to guard the armoury keys. Half an hour later, they unlocked the armoury and each took a Bren gun. They first destroyed the radio system, then they sneaked into the officers quarters and killed the two inspectors. They then advanced into the cabins and locked al the crew members in there, then, they forced one of the helmsman to the cockpit. Meanwhile, the now highest-ranking officer, a corporal heard the commotion and loudly asked what's going on, and was immediately shot dead. The other helmsman on duty attempted to resist but was gunned down as well. The mutineers then attempted to locate the boatswain which they had beef with but failed, and they turned to looting their colleagues.

The launch was then sailed close to the border, but the ship was beached before they could cross it. As a result, they locked the helmsman back into the quarters and tooke whatever valuables and weapons they can take. They then fled northeast across the border. Reports indicated that two Bren guns, five rifles (likely Lee-Enfields) and five pistols (likely Webley revolvers) and ten crates of ammo were taken. The police issued a bounty of 20,000 HKD (100k to 190k USD in today's value) for the mutineers' capture. There were news that some involved people were arrested but unfortunately there were no detailed records of it.

7 years later, in 1956, an armourer with the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers Command Workshop in Kowloon discovered a Bren gun with the serial number "HKP004". After contacting the Hong Kong Police, it was confirmed that this was one of the Bren guns taken from Launch No.1. Turns out in 1953, British troops in Korea was able to recapture the gun on the battlefield, due to the necessity of arms, the gun was kept in theatre and was used by three different regiments before being returned to Hong Kong. The Bren gun was then returned to it's rightful owner and was put on display in the Police Museum.

P.S. The exhibit of the Bren gun claimed that the Launch was attacked by pirates but newspaper reports at the time was very clear that it was a mutiny of two crew members.

- The Soldier Integrated Precision Effects Systems (SIPES) is a project initiated by the Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) in collaboration with Defence Research and Development Canada (DRDC) and Colt Canada.

- The SIPES prototype is a bullpup-configured rifle designed to fire 5.56mm cased telescoped ammunition. It includes a secondary effects module that can be configured as a three-round 40 mm grenade launcher or a 12-gauge shotgun, providing multi-role capabilities.

- A NATO standard power and data rail integrates various accessories such as electro-optical sights and position sensors, reducing the need for multiple power sources and minimizing the soldier's load.

- SIPES features automated target detection and geo-location sensors, allowing the weapon to share data with command and control networks for improved situational awareness and combat efficiency. A heads-up display provides critical information such as target distance and remaining ammunition.

- The SIPES project was intended solely as a technological demonstration of potential advancements for the CAF. It was never meant to be put into production.

Dlask Arms Corp DAC 394… a well traveled pistol at that. Made in Canada, exported to the US where it received dealer import marks, exported to Germany where it was proofed, and now for sale in France. Guess you learn something everyday huh

Craftsmanship looks excellent and respectable

Way cooler than the Norinco ones they have nowadays

It's sort of an en-bloc clip that looks like a stripper clip. You insert it the same way you'd insert a mannlicher style en-bloc clip, but then it falls out when you chamber the first round and it doesn't have any feed lips. Those are integral to the gun, just like with a Mauser rifle.

Ian said in his video that the US Navy when they adopted the Lee-Navy thought this system would combine the best of both worlds. Easy to load like an en-clop, but not as susceptible to damage.

However, the fact that these clips look so much like stripper clips kind of makes me wonder if they *could* theoretically have been used like that. Like imagine the US Army had actually adopted the 6x60mm cartridge for their Krag-Jörgensen rifles and then used them as stripper clips, similar to this one.

https://x.com/stparabellum/status/2079635142042161403?s=46&t=qhHWFVh6HCHqHWAyxkckEA

Some sources

http://oruzhie.info/artilleriya/142-2a45m-sprut-b

https://yuripasholok.livejournal.com/8475825.html

Manufactured in 1950 (the 39th year of the Republic of China) by the 44th Arsenal of the Taiwan Combined Logistics Command. Its defining feature is a large broadsword equipped on a copy of the Sten submachine gun (Sten gun) to replace the bayonet, which can also be folded for portability. The history of the arsenal can be traced back to the Central Ordnance Repair Facility in Longpan, Nanjing (1936); it was officially designated as the 44th Arsenal of the Combined Logistics Command (abbreviated as the 44th Arsenal) in 1943, and relocated to Taiwan with the ROC Armed Forces in 1948. In 1976, it was renamed the 206th Arsenal of the Combined Logistics Command, relocated to Sanxia District, New Taipei City in 1980, and merged with the 208th Arsenal of the Combined Logistics Command in 1984 to form the Missile and Rocket Manufacturing Center of the National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology, coming under the jurisdiction of the National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology.

- The TVGK or TГBК in Russian, standing for "тяжёлый гранатомётно-винтовочный комплекс" or "heavy grenade-rifle complex" is a conceptual weapon system that combines assault rifle with a grenade launcher. It was developed by KB Shar in Ukraine in the early to late 2000s.

- The assault rifle component of the TVGK features two horizontally aligned barrels of chambered for its proprietary 4.92x34mm rounds from a 70 round box magazine. Each barrel of the rifle has its own firing mechanism, allowing for a staggered firing sequence similar to the AO-63, a twin-barreled assault rifle where each barrel fires with a slight delay (in the hundredths of a second) to prevent interference between the bullets in flight. The rifle has a dual-rate of fire mechanism, with selectable firing rates of 500 or a theoretical later proven burst fire rate of 8000 RPM.

- The grenade launcher component, which places under the rifle's barrel, fires 20mm low-ballistic grenade from a 5 round box magazine.

三八式冲锋枪 民38式冲锋枪

The Chinese 9mm Type 38 submachine gun is a submachine gun produced by the Kuomintang after relocating to Taiwan, and is an improved model of the British Sten Mk I submachine gun. Manufactured by Kuomintang production units, its main improvements include being restricted to a fully automatic fire mode, an optimized bolt structure, an enlarged charging handle, and a simplified external design.

The gun utilizes a blowback operation and fires from an open bolt. It has an overall length of 755 mm and a barrel length of 195 mm, with an overall weight of 3.95 kg (unloaded weight 2.8 kg). When firing 9mm Parabellum pistol cartridges, it achieves a muzzle velocity of 365 m/s and a cyclic rate of fire of 550 rounds/minute. The sight configuration consists of an inverted V-shaped front sight and a fixed rear sight with a single peep aperture, providing an effective range of 100 meters.

Development History The Chinese 9mm Type 38 submachine gun is a submachine gun produced by the Kuomintang after relocating to Taiwan, and is an improved model of the British Sten Mk I submachine gun. Its main improvements include being restricted to a fully automatic fire mode, an optimized bolt structure, an enlarged charging handle, and a simplified external design.

Technical Features The differences between the Chinese 9mm M38 submachine gun and the Sten Mk I submachine gun are that it can only fire in fully automatic mode, the bolt is slightly improved, the charging handle is slightly enlarged, the exterior design is simpler, and the manufacturing quality has been improved. The gun utilizes a blowback operation and fires from an open bolt, with a sight configuration consisting of an inverted V-shaped front sight and a fixed rear sight with a single peep aperture.

Performance Data The overall length of the Chinese 9mm Type 38 submachine gun is 755 mm, and the barrel length is 195 mm. The overall weight is 3.95 kg (unloaded weight 2.8 kg). The gun fires 9mm Parabellum pistol cartridges, with a muzzle velocity of 365 m/s, a cyclic rate of fire of 550 rounds/minute, and an effective range of 100 meters.

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https://huoqibaike.club/wiki/民38式冲锋枪

This is a Greek issued Mannlicher-Schoenauer 1903/14 rifle made by Breda in Italy in 1927. The Mannlicher-Schoenauer with its iconic spool magazine was a popular sporting arm but the Greeks were the only one to adopt it as a military rifle. This one has some interesting trench art as well.

If somebody just showed me how this thing works with no further context, I'd have thought that it's an LMG developed in the 1920s when people had yet to figure out what's the best way to build these sorts of things. After all, it fires from an open bolt - which is great for keeping the gun cool, but bad for accuracy in semi auto - and it has a toothed gear mechanism on the inside. Not much weirder than the Madsen LMG with its falling block action or whatever the Swiss Ke-7 is doing.

It genuinely amazes me that as late as the 1950s, anyone would have used a mechanism like that.

A shame, really. If this thing had come out in the 1920s, China, Ethiopia and someone in Latin America would probably have bought a couple each. Right before switching to the zb.26.

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