software houses are like the vgen broker in indonesia. so they are literally using ai to trace authors works, asking young artists to pay for a mentorship and giving them nothing back lol wtf

And I don't say that lightly. I think there is a bitterness at their core which cause them to want art eradicated, purely to spite artists.

I had so far thought that what I'd seen was just vanilla internet drama. The AI prompters reacting to anti-AI stance by taking an anti-art stance. But I think it cuts deeper.

I got this feeling when I saw this, now locked, post. While the post is very teen, and from her perspective, obviously, it is still the first anti-art stance I've seen outside the online realm.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtistLounge/comments/1uzkwbx/i_said_ill_throw_a_party_when_artificial/

I want to be an artist/cartoonist and to make it big

I know exactly what I want to do with my life but I am terrified that I might never "make it big".

that all the sacrifices I do might never pan out and that when I will look back at everything I have ever done that all my work might amount to nothing.

Every day these thoughts torture me

But I can't quit either

Because if I was to quit I would never forgive myself

And live in regret

Damn if I do damn if I don't..

I wish I had the power to be delusional

That all these thoughts of failure would never come in my mind but every day my dreams seem to get further and further away.

This is more of a Personal thing, but it kinda takes me weeks to do stuff that other artists can do within a day :p

I'm trying to replicate Sif Savery's artstyle for my Tales of Zale Fanfic Elva's Song as it's essentially supposed to be a fan made continuation of the Webseries with how Tales of Zale is getting rebooted

Unfortunately, I am a bit of a procrastinator, and I'm currently struggling with Sesam, who is supposed to be the easiest character design wise TwT

I do use a mouse which does make me unlike most people here as far as I'm aware, and I generally prefer using a Mouse over something like a stylus or even my own fingers since I'm a lot more precise with my mouse than I am with any of those.

Ironically though, I can draw Elva quite easily, and I do it frequently enough to where the issue for me around her is that I don't do it enough because out of any character I definitely feel she needs the most love, especially with Alba possibly replacing her if it weren't for me 'lD

I bet this guy generated the "No Data Centers Pledge" with AI.

I personally find it extremely harmful this blind hate and bullying to AI assisted artworks and productions, specially those made by single artists and indie developers or teams. I think being pro artist would mean to celebrate new ways people have to express themselves, even those who can't financially or physically engage in making the art they dream of.

You can be a pro ai or anti ai but I think we can all agree that this is going way too far! I had enough of this shit. If I go into a store the first thing I see is AI. If I try to search for a program the first thing I see is AI. Even if I try to watch the TV I still fucking see AI generated ads. Basically, no matter where I look at I only see AI. They keep forcing us this shit. WHY DOES A FUCKING AIR CONDITIONER HAS TO HAVE THE LABEL "AI"??? Why can't ANYONE in the tech industry understand that we do not want this. I don't even think the "ordinary" people will choose something over another one just because It HaS Ai In iT. This is getting worse than politics.

Talking a bit more seriously now. I do wonder how long this will last. I think we still unfortunately need 5 - 8 years (only 3-5 if we're luck) to have this calm down. I also do expect this post to be screenshoted and reposted onto defendingaiart saying Oh LoOk At ThIs IdIoT HaTiNg On ThIs MaGnIfFiCaNt TeChNoLoGy.

I consider myself a "baby artist". I'm still trying to get a handle on humanoid proportions and shading, and I do mini studies on my favorite characters from games and shows to help. Right now, I'm seeing some discourse in my friend groups about this character, Connor, and the game he's from, Detroit: Become Human. I've been told that the game does nothing but promote AI rhetoric, that I shouldn't have bought it (I didn't, it came free with my PS+ subscription) even though I got it before the AI discussion really started up, and that I'm wrong for identifying with him because he's an AI. I identify with him in the sense that Connor is very autistic coded and struggles to pick up metaphor and social cues, as well as being very driven to solve a puzzle when he's given it. I'm also autistic and struggle with social things in the same way, and, if I'm given a puzzle, I can spend hours or days on it. And, like Connor, I have to be doing something to keep my hands busy if I'm waiting for something. I'm also being told I'm being pro-AI because I like the game and the character.

Honestly, I don't know how to feel about it all. In my eyes, the androids in D:BH are very different from today's LLMs. They were built and coded to be pretty much indistinguishable from humans visibly (aside from the temple LED), and deviants come off as entirely human in the case of wants and needs. Deviancy is treated like a transferrable "virus" from what I've seen, with deviants being able to transfer deviancy to non-deviants. That virus had to be coded in, and had to start somewhere. It was started by human hubris, just like how today's image and text generation is becoming more and more "human". I understand that the game is a statement on the rise of AI, and how a rise of perfectly human AI could go very wrong for humanity, but am I so wrong for liking a character that, in his source, is an AI?

Anyways, rant is over. Constructive criticism on the study and practice shading is welcomed, so is discussion about the rant.

I was browsing art subreddits for underwater related things and saw a cool art with a giant seamonster. Only to see that somebody posted an ai art directly in the comments like it is a completely normal things to do. And brought portal into it for some reason.

I asked the artist whether I could share this here, they gave me permission

I've been dedicating my time to learn music production and have been working on an album for the last 3 years. I did not make that much progress but I'm still keeping at it. I have considered using AI tools in the past for mixing/mastering but I want to learn audio engineering on my own and do it all myself. It is a big feat and I do not use AI at all in my workflow but I'm feeling discouraged.

I don't want to hear "you could use AI" or "why don't you use AI" or "AI could do it better". Although I have no intention to share my music anyways and I am doing this album to fulfill my life's purpose, I can't help but feel discouraged/ icked out by AI. Not the technology itself, but the people. I don't hate the technology that much compared to the sentiment surrounding it. It is over hyped and misunderstood by everyone.

There is an enormous issue of technological illiteracy on both sides of the AI debate for the laymen. Also the arguments pro AI art people use just seem intellectually stifling. Yet it is also hard to argue with them without being "elitist". Now I have mixed feelings about elitism. On one hand I do hate the condescending and unwelcoming culture found in some artistic/musical spaces. However, it is not wrong for definitions and standards to be put in place within a discipline.

Now I have used Gen AI before but more in the early stages and I eventually got bored and go out of my way to actually put in effort because it is more intellectually stimulating. With vibe coding I'm not entirely against it as long as the user is a competent programmer (which 99% of the time isn't the case). And that is ignoring the environmental and other ethical issues which I am aware of. Regardless Gen AI should not be a tool meant for artistic endeavors.

Gen AI could never actualize what I want because my vision cannot be put solely into words. Hell if I can describe sounds in words then I could just do the sound design myself.

My goals are nervous system related. I want to unlock the potential of muscle memory and neuroplasticity. I want to be at a point where I can do anything I put my mind to and have knowledge, which can never be taken away from me and will always be mine.

Idk what the point of this post was I just wanted to vent/yap/speak my mind.

Even if we shut down all data centers and make training AI illegal, there are already way too many people who have local AI models. How do we fight against that? We need to make some kind of malware that bricks people's machines if it detects AI models downloaded on there. I'm not smart enough to make one but maybe someone here knows someone who knows someone who can do something.

Even as bad as my older drawings were, I choose it over at ai slop

I’ve been told more than once that if I don’t want to live in a world with AI, I might as well kill myself—and what if they’re right?

What if I should kill myself rather than live in a world full of unemployment and loneliness?

A world where the thing I love most—art—no longer holds any value?

What if I just put an end to it all?

I don’t want to live in this world...

If it’s a choice between adapting or dying...

I’d rather die...

Perhaps if not, my destiny will be to live on the streets, as everyone tells me, to be a homeless person with nothing in my life... because the world only seems to be getting worse, a world without meaning for me.