r/thermodynamics 1d ago

Question Which is better: direct contact or not in oven

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Short: if I’m putting something in the oven and that food item is in an aluminum pan, does it matter if that pan is in direct contact or not with something else? Or does the pan equalize things. Specifically the browning on the bottom of the food item.

Long: baking pizza at home. Without a pizza oven that goes to high temps it’s difficult unless you’re doing a “pan pizza” style. I have dark colored pizza pans that I love. I also have a dark colored pizza stone(and thinking about getting a pizza steel). My more specific question is, should I be putting the pan on the pizza stone? A pizza stone/steel is generally considered the best way to cook pizza at home because the direct contact gives the pizza a crispy bottom but I hate the mess of putting the pizza directly on the stone, so I bought dark anodized pizza pans to make putting the pizza in the oven then lifting back out easier. Will direct contact with the pizza stone make much difference if it’s on the pizza pan? Thanks!


r/thermodynamics 2d ago

Educational What is Second Law of Thermodynamics ? - manic ?

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r/thermodynamics 1d ago

Alternative fuel: methanol vs ethanol vs gasoline in our test engine and why timing behaved contrary to general consensus?

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It was suggested that this sub may be better suited even vs physicists?


r/thermodynamics 1d ago

Why hot tea get cold?

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Tea time


r/thermodynamics 2d ago

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r/thermodynamics 2d ago

Research Is this a Theoretical thermodynamic reduction Framework: Closed-Loop Data Center Cooling via Cyanobacteria-Derived Hydrogel Matrix

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r/thermodynamics 4d ago

Research Thermal to electric, what are the options?

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I'm trying to wrap my head around the different ways you can extract electricity from stored thermal energy. I understand the basic thermodynamics and that if you have a temperature difference, there's energy available. What I don't know is all the different ways electrical engineers take advantage of that.

I already know about thermoelectric (Seebeck) modules, but what other methods are out there? I'm thinking small-scale systems, not steam turbines or power plants.

If you were starting from scratch and wanted to learn how people convert heat into electricity, what technologies would you be reading about and why?

I'm just trying to understand what options exist and where the limitations are.


r/thermodynamics 4d ago

Question Does the device act as an oscillator?

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Hello,

I am interested in external-combustion engines and, naturally, in the Stirling engine.

I would therefore like to present a variation, derivative, or adaptation of this principle: the air contained in the boiler exerts pressure on the water in the vessel, causing it to rise into the heat exchanger. The heat exchanger then cools the air, thereby reducing the pressure exerted on the water in the vessel. This phenomenon should produce an oscillation.

Despite this analysis, I would appreciate your opinion, as there is often a significant gap between theory and practice. What advice could you give me regarding the construction of the device and the verification of its operation?

The objective is to generate an oscillation using a small temperature differential and without any phase change.

I therefore assume that the water must not remain stagnant in the plate heat exchanger.

Are there any other important points to consider during construction?

Thank you in advance for your reply.

Kind regards,


r/thermodynamics 4d ago

Can Earth Restore Order Through Energy Flow?

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Title: Can energy flow help Earth maintain or restore local order?

Earth is an open thermodynamic system. It receives concentrated energy from the Sun, transforms it through atmospheric, geological, and biological processes, and radiates lower-quality heat back into space.
This continuous energy flow allows complex structures and life to exist despite the overall increase in entropy.
That led me to a speculative question:
Could technologies designed to assist energy release—or improve particular pathways of energy dissipation—support local stability and ecological restoration?

I call this idea The Bloom Effect: Order Through Energy Flow.
It is a hypothesis, not an established scientific result, and energy export alone does not automatically create order. The relevant mechanisms, scale, wavelength, location, and thermodynamic conditions would all need to be defined and tested.

I would genuinely appreciate critical feedback, especially from people familiar with thermodynamics, complex systems, climate physics, or non-equilibrium systems:
Which parts are thermodynamically sound?
Where does the reasoning become too speculative?
How could this hypothesis be formulated or tested more rigorously?


r/thermodynamics 4d ago

Can everything turn into gas?

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Opinion

At certain high temperature everything can turn into a gas, every single solid and liquid in the universe will eventually boil and turn into a gas

Think if we had a magical super-furnace that could crank the temperature up to 6,000°C without needing any oxygen, elements that seem indestructible at room temperature would easily turn into gas.

The plastic, the glass, the copper wires, and the battery would instantly separate into their most basic atomic pieces. Within seconds, you would have a swirling, floating clouf.

How about carbon?

Carbon is so stubborn that it doesn't even melt into a liquid at normal pressures. It goes straight from a solid crust to a gas at a whopping 3,642°C. Once you pass that temperature, the last solid piece of matter in your furnace vanishes into thin air.


r/thermodynamics 5d ago

Question Does heat transfer have a speed?

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I would assume it would be something like the speed of sound in the object but I'm not sure. For example if I hold a 10ft steel pole and touch a very hot object how long do I have to wait until my hand gets warm?


r/thermodynamics 6d ago

Question Why would lower pressure alone make a gas colder? (Thought experiment)

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I’ve been trying to understand the relationship between pressure and temperature in the atmosphere, and I feel that many explanations oversimplify the physics.
People often say that “air is colder at higher altitudes because the pressure is lower.” But as far as I understand, a decrease in pressure only causes a decrease in temperature during an adiabatic expansion, where the gas performs work on its surroundings.
Pressure itself is not a form of energy, so I don’t see why a gas at lower pressure should necessarily have a lower equilibrium temperature if no expansion or compression is taking place.
Here’s my thought experiment:
Imagine two identical transparent boxes floating in space. They have the same size, shape, surface area, and both receive exactly the same amount of solar radiation. The only difference is that one box contains gas at a much higher pressure (more molecules), while the other contains gas at a lower pressure.
Assume both boxes have rigid walls, so no expansion or compression can occur. The gases simply absorb radiation until they reach thermal equilibrium.
Would the higher-pressure box end up at a higher equilibrium temperature?
One could argue that the denser gas contains more molecules that can absorb radiation. However, that same energy is also distributed among more molecules, so it’s not obvious to me why the average molecular kinetic energy (temperature) should end up higher.
This is what confuses me about the usual explanation of the atmosphere as well. I understand that rising air cools through (approximately) adiabatic expansion. But once that parcel has reached its new altitude and is no longer expanding, why should the lower ambient pressure itself imply a lower equilibrium temperature?
So my questions are:
In the rigid-box thought experiment, would the two gases reach different equilibrium temperatures?
If they would, what physical mechanism makes pressure affect the equilibrium temperature?
If they wouldn’t, is it incorrect to say that “lower pressure causes lower temperature”? Shouldn’t the cooling instead be attributed specifically to the adiabatic expansion process, rather than to the lower pressure itself?
I’m looking for an explanation from thermodynamics or atmospheric physics, rather than the common intuition that “less pressure = colder.”


r/thermodynamics 8d ago

Is this topic suitable for an undergraduate research project?

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Study on Waste Heat Recovery from Boiler Flue Gas for Feedwater/Combustion Air Preheating Using a Heat Exchanger (Economizer/Air Preheater): Design Calculation and Energy-Saving Efficiency Evaluation (Please excuse my English, it is not my first language.)


r/thermodynamics 8d ago

Has anyone else watched an induction stove heat up water and felt like the spontaneity combined with structure of the pre-boiling water might indicate some fundamentals worth revisiting?

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Has anyone else watched an induction stove heat up water and felt like the spontaneity combined with structure of the pre boiling water might indicate some fundamentals worth revisiting? Not to undermine fundamentals, just to reground. The spontaneity seems unpredictable in a way that is relevant these days.


r/thermodynamics 9d ago

Question Where does this discrepancy between Glassman and JANAF tables dissociation constants come from?

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Howdy,

As part of a self study project over the summer, I put together an adiabatic flame temperature calculator in Python using residual minimization methods. For the chemistry of this project, I'm almost entirely reading out of Chapter 1 of Irvin Glassman's *Combustion* textbook. While I was able to correctly predict some reactions' temperatures, reactions involving carbon (such as CH4+O2) remained far from expected temperatures with large residuals.

My understanding of the dissociation of CO2 as a product is that it primarily dissociates through CO2->CO+(1/2)O2, and then CO may dissociate via CO->C+(1/2)O2. We can combine and simplify this dissociation as CO2->C+O2. This reaction has equilibrium constant Kp(T)=pCO2 / (pC + pO2), but because carbon's standard state is solid and therefore only exerts vapor pressure which is only a function of temperature, we can simplify further and write Kp'(T)=Kp(T)pC(T)=pCO2 / pO2=nCO2 / nO2. Glassman states that the Kp values tabulated in the JANAF tables for substances containing carbon are actually these Kp' values and that nC is effectively ignored.

I decided to double check my methodology against the some of Glassman's results to verify that I was not misunderstanding the procedure. Where I am getting caught though is when referencing his example equilibrium product composition of C3H8+O2. He states that, at P=1atm and equivalence ratio 1 with a flame temperature of 3094K, the final quantities of CO2 and O2 are 0.135mol and 0.097mol respectively. Plugging into the formula provided, this means Kp'(3094K) for CO2 must be 0.135/0.097=~1.39. However, the JANAF tables provide log_(10)Kf(3100K) for CO2 as being 6.661, which means Kf(3094K) should be on the order of millions, not ones.

One thing that immediately jumps out at me is Glassman's usage of and reference to Kp values, while the JANAF tables reference Kf, but he was very explicit that the JANAF tables contain these Kp and Kp' values. When looking through both the back of his textbook at the contained copy of the tables as well as the tables online, I only see reference to Kf, so at my level I can only conclude those must be referring to the same thing. Is this not so?

If not that, what else could be causing this discrepancy? I'm having trouble finding more information on dissociation constants online so I haven't been successful at cross-referencing other sources, and if there isn't an easy answer to this mismatch, I would greatly appreciate some other sources of these values.

Thank you for your time and advice.


r/thermodynamics 11d ago

Question Why does moving water melt ice faster than still water

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So if I put equal-sized ice cubes in equal volumes of water—one completely still, the other with a continuous stream of tap water running over it—why does the ice in the moving water melt much faster? The water is at the same temperature


r/thermodynamics 12d ago

Question Where exactly are the key mechanical components (piston, crankshaft, valves) located in this cross-section of a hermetic reciprocating compressor?

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Hello everyone,

I am currently studying different types of compressors and I have this cross-section diagram of a hermetic reciprocating compressor (from a course slide).

The accompanying text describes its operation, mentioning several parts:

-The electric motor (moteur électrique)
-The crankshaft (vilebrequin)
-The piston and cylinder (piston et cylindre)
-The valves (soupapes)

However, the diagram itself (Figure 10) doesn't have any labels pointing to these specific elements.
Could someone help me map out where each of these components is located on this specific cutaway view?

Thank you!


r/thermodynamics 12d ago

Question Given how A/C adoption has become a fiercely debated hot topic in France, then why are Evaporative swamp coolers not a thing?

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Hello All. It's me, the curious finance guy, again.

Recently I've come across some articles in my feed about the recent heat
wave in France, particularly about Air Conditioning appliances over there.
Apparently, something like 21% or so of residential homes even have one.
Their discussion about it appears to have since unraveled to arguing over
Parisian culture, architectural facade asthetics, environmentalism, general
public health safety, even far-right & far-left ideals (if you can believe that).

It's an interesting read, if ya wanna check it out, but it's not why I'm here.

Why aren't portable indoor evaporative swamp coolers a thing? I searched
google about it, and I guess those are just not suitable for their summers
being uniquely humid... which i COULD understand.

☝️ HOWEVER ☝️

I pulled up Paris weather during the past week, and it shows their daytime
highs over ranges around 33°C to 36°C (approx 91.4°F to 96.8°F) whereas
relative humidity ranges 27% to 33% respectively.

Wait, what?

I'm in southern CA, and my 250 cfm portable swamp cooler, and it's little
pump trickling at 1L a min (16.6667 mL / sec) would perform well under
those conditions such as in my garage - where I use it often, like today.
Granted, not as well as my townhouse's central AC unit - understandably.
But FWIW, it still produces [at least] adequate air cooling.. to say the least.

So like......... What is it I'm missing something here?


r/thermodynamics 13d ago

Question Can the term "subcooled" be applied to binary systems?

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r/thermodynamics 15d ago

Question How to spread cooled across the floor?

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*Cooled air, rather

14,000 BTU portable air conditioner (dual hose modded) to cool 260 square feet of floor space, across the landing it's placed and two rooms. I'm currently using fans to draw air into the two rooms, to achieve a delta of 2-3c between the rooms and the unit.

Is there a better setup than this? And would cracking open windows in the two target rooms help or hinder cooling?


r/thermodynamics 16d ago

Question Can we generate enough pressure differences to pierce heat domes ?

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As the title and the linked post suggest, my question is whether thermodynamics have anything to contribute to the heat domes issue (my uneducated guess is, it does) and if so, what does it tell us of a system like a heat dome and it's inner workings ? Anything that could point towards at least a theoretical solution ?


r/thermodynamics 17d ago

Question Can "Cryo Paint" greatly boost the performance of a heat pipe for cooling?

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CryoPaint is designed to reflect over 95% of light radiate heat from objects in a band of wavelengths that are transparent to air:

"Radiates Heat to Space: Actively cools by radiating heat directly to outer space via the 8–13 µm Atmospheric Transparency Window"

It claims to make a surface up to 15⁰F cooler than ambient air.

I was wondering what that might do to a heat pipe system for cooling if applied to the radiators.

(Note: posted to Thermal Imaging, which I realize was probably not appropriate to that sub, so I'll delete it there)


r/thermodynamics 19d ago

how a gas turbine works

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r/thermodynamics 21d ago

Question Why do we believe that entropy in the universe must always remain constant or increase?

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Seems like staring at the corner or pixel of the mona lisa and seeing that it's blue so assuming the whole thing is blue. Also not a very good representation it seems like the earth is a pretty good example of entropy decreasing I get it's not a closed system but it does seem to show that entropy can decrease seams posible that it could do this in a diff context. (anyway studying for the MCAT and the always statment was bothering me always to me it seems like we have no idea and just like to think we know what is happing.


r/thermodynamics 22d ago

Question Would a large window affect room temp?

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Hello! Turning to reddit for an educated answer on a topic that has been an ongoing debate between my SO and I. In a room (20' x 16') with a large eastern facing window (92" x 34"), would the sunlight coming in affect the ambient temp of that room once the sun has come around to be directly shining on it, even if the window itself has UV coating?