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Fluff What game surprised you how long it was?

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u/horny_Geezer 4h ago

Silksong

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u/Spinningguy 4h ago

I still remember how much i freaked out (in the good way) when I finally beat last judeg, and got the act 2 screen. I had forgotten that I was in act one, and while I knew I wasnt excatly close to the end, I figured I was like 60% there since I finally reached the main objective. Then I got slapped in the face with act two, telling me I was barely a third of the way there.

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u/Sluttytranslesbo 3h ago

I saw that act 2 was set in the citadel and I thought, "oh so its just one building, like probably white palace in size." Oh how wrong I was

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u/AxtheCool 3h ago

Doing in the first day of release with zero spoilers did add so much to the experience as well.

Like here is double the area to explore.

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u/IBetThisIsTakenToo 2h ago

It’s funny though, because I had the opposite experience going into Act 3. I spent so much time doing everything possible with Act 2, that Act 3 really didn’t have much left. I had greedily hoped it would be as big as the previous Acts. Still one of my favorite games ever though

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u/Spinningguy 54m ago

Dude id act three was as big as act two i cant even imagine how long itd take me to beat. Act 3 still has a decent amount of content, obviously less than the other but a bad amount

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u/malvato 2h ago edited 1h ago

I simply couldn't beat the Last Judge. I tried and tried, but got stuck... tried different load outs, watched videos, tried exploring other areas and came back later... but I gave up and played other games since then. I might come back to it eventually, I wish there was an Easy mode, so I could move on with the story.

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u/Empty-Contest-559 1h ago

Do you mind an advice that could spoil a part of the fight that can either be funny or infuriating to find alone ?

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u/malvato 1h ago

Go right ahead, anything to get over the hump.

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u/kolacija 1h ago

You don’t have to beat The Last Judge to get to act 2. You can fight a different boss.

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u/malvato 1h ago

I see, I'll look into it, thanks.

u/winnipeg_blah 14m ago

Save yourself. I love the game, I beat act 3....if you're hitting that hard of a wall at last judge, don't bother coming back to try act 2 lol

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u/Chrisical 42m ago

I freaked out with my friends on call when we saw that the "Act 1: Pharloom" text because we thought it meant the entirety of pharloom has at least only half the game and we'd be going to a different kingdom in the second half

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u/chiptunesoprano 4h ago

The map is insane, makes Hollow Knight look like a playpen.

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u/D1gininja 4h ago

Hollow knight is similar, beat the hollow knight and then learn about the true ending

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u/K01SH1 4h ago

this 10000%

i hadn't played hollow knight first so i wasn't familiar with team cherry's game, and the indie games i played were usually more limited in scope

i was blown away

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u/Kidicee 3h ago

Totally agree even as a person who played the first game. The game is just THAT much bigger.

I rarely find people who haven't played HK before SK so i have a question: how nonsensical the story felt without not knowing what happens in the previous game?

Such important things as Void, Pale Beings, Hornet's parents and guardians, ect. are barely explained because the devs just assume that you alredy know all the lore from Hollow Knight.

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u/K01SH1 3h ago

I kinda got the gist of it honestly, but i didn't understand that stuff fully until i played Hollow Knight

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u/AxtheCool 3h ago

The game takes place in basically a fully original new setting. There are references to the previous game and some things appear as well but its 100% not needed to play the other game.

The issue is that Skong is more difficult than Hollow Knight but that takes more getting used to than anything.

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u/Kidicee 1h ago

Yes, the game takes place in a completely new kingdom that is barely connected to Hallownest but it's still the same world and characters. Imo not playing the first game will ruin like a third of Silksong.

There are references to the first game. A lot of them. If you don't play the first game, they will look and sound cool but in the end you will be wondering "What the heck did just happen?".

The moment when Widow calls Hornet "The child of Wyrm and Weaver" i was like "Okaaaay, okay, something really serious is finally starting to happen.".

The moment when Wormways got infected by Lifeblood i was like "Holy, shit, i didn't know it could do THIS.".

When Snail shamans played an important part of the story i thought to myself "Yoooo, the devs didn't forget about this? That is so cool!".

At the true ending, i litteraly stared at the screen with my mouth wide open. It was probably the coolest thing i've experienced that month. A couple of weeks before this moment i wondered with my friends about what if this thing happened somewhere in the game and it turned out to be true.

Without atleast knowing what happens in the first game, each of those and many other moments would be reduced to "Huh, that was pretty cool/neat/interesting.".

u/AxtheCool 7m ago

> not playing the first game will ruin like a third of Silksong

Hard disagree here. It might ruin the game if what you are looking to is the story.

Mechanically and otherwise its a whole different game and definitelly doesnt require playing HK first.

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u/MoarVespenegas 1h ago

Honestly hollow knight is very stingy with the lore in the first place so it probably felt like playing hollow knight for the first time.

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u/SuperSocialMan 2h ago

Why didn't you play Hollow Knight first that must count as blasphemy of some kind

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u/K01SH1 2h ago

i had no interest in either game so i pirated silksong to see what the hype was about and ended up loving it

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u/AxtheCool 3h ago

Finishing Act 1 and seeing that gate open up was insane. Like surprise here is double the area to explore and you are at like 40% of the game.

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u/Overall-Bookkeeper73 1h ago

I was struggling w/Last Judge and my wife said: "At least that's gotta' be the final boss, right?"

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u/bigparsnipenjoyer 4h ago

I love how it feels like it’s about to wrap up at the last judge and then you realize you’re not even halfway.

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u/Veng3ancemaster 3h ago

I thought I was near the end until I fought Cogwork Dancers while playing

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u/GrandManitou 25m ago

"Finally! After so long, I've finally beaten Grandmother Silk!"

"There's an Act 3 ??"

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u/mcgee300 22m ago

Fucking incredible game. Everything about Silksong is perfect and by farrrrrrr.... Hardest game I've ever played. Didn't even enjoy finishing it lmao... Was just worn out by the end. Would 10/10 recommend.

u/constantly_exhaused 12m ago

And it’s beautiful

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u/Real_Walk5384 3h ago

I kinda bounced off this game because it seemed more frustrating than the first one. I intend to come back to it when the DLC drops, eventually.

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u/AxtheCool 3h ago

Mowever Skong becomes incredible once you master Hornet's movement. At some point you are basically styling on enemies because Hornet is just so much more more mobile.

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u/kos-or-kosm 2h ago

It is more frustrating. There are a number of design choices that combine to make it far more hostile than HK ever was. I love the game, but TC didn't hold back on the bullshit.

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u/Real_Walk5384 2h ago

Yeah that's my issue with it. It didn't feel more challenging, just more tedious.

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u/Visulth 2h ago

100%

I loved Silksong, but I put up with a lot of inconveniences in HK1 because that's just how it was -- 0 intention to put up with that shit in Silksong. Immediately added mods for perma map marker, vacuum, currency not getting destroyed from spikes (like seriously why do this TC), etc.

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u/SuperSocialMan 2h ago

perma map markers, vacuum, currency not getting destroyed from spikes

But those are already in the game lol?

Spikes destroying the rosaries is a bit annoying, but they're really easy to get so it's not too big of a deal.

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u/Visulth 2h ago

Er, yeah, I meant the compass -- perma map marker for the character -- without having to waste a slot.

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u/Real_Walk5384 2h ago

I never even thought about modding the game. Everyone has so much fun with it I want to like it. Maybe after the DLC comes out I'll try that.

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u/SuperSocialMan 2h ago

IT'S NOT A DLC AUGHHUGUYH

Same here, though. 5 years of waiting just to be disappointed :'c

I was expecting Hollow Knight 2, but we got Silksong.

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u/Real_Walk5384 2h ago

Is it content that can be downloaded?

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u/TooWarmRadiator 1h ago

They're on about Sea of Sorrows moron

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u/SuperSocialMan 1h ago

I know, but that's an update - not a DLC. It doesn't have a separate store page or download, it's just gonna be part of the game (just like the ones for Hollow Knight).