r/hegel • u/Akanksha002400 • 12h ago
r/hegel • u/Brotoloigos • Apr 21 '20
Hegel is not a proponent of the "Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis" Scheme.
I have decided to write a sticky post regarding this matter in light of the recurring reference in the community to the supposed use of the "Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis" scheme by Hegel. The most available evidence against this kind of reading is what is written in the preface to the Phenomenology of Spirit (translated by Pinkard) where Hegel writes:
48. It might seem necessary to state at the outset the principal points concerning the method of this movement, or the method of science. However, its concept lies in what has already been said, and its genuine exposition belongs to logic, or is instead even logic itself, for the method is nothing but the structure of the whole in its pure essentiality. However, on the basis of what has been said up until now, we must be aware that the system of representations relating to philosophical method itself also belongs to an already vanished cultural shape. – However much this may perhaps sound somewhat boastful or revolutionary, and however much I take myself to be far from striking such a tone, still it is worthwhile to keep in mind that the scientific régime bequeathed by mathematics – a régime of explanations, classifications, axioms, a series of theorems along with their proofs, principles, and the consequences and inferences to be drawn from them – has in common opinion already come to be regarded as itself at the least out of date. Even though it has not been clearly seen just exactly why that régime is so unfit, little to no use at all is any longer made of it, and even though it is not condemned in itself, it is nonetheless not particularly well liked. And we must be prejudiced in favor of the excellent and believe that it can put itself to use and bring itself into favor. However, it is not difficult to see that the mode of setting forth a proposition, producing reasons for it, and then also refuting its opposite with an appeal to reason is not the form in which truth can emerge. Truth is the movement of itself in its own self, but the former method is that of a cognition which is external to its material. For that reason, such a method is peculiar to mathematics and must be left to mathematics, which, as noted, has for its principle the conceptless relationship of magnitude, and takes its material from dead space as well as from the equally lifeless numerical unit. In a freer style, that is to say, in a mélange of even more quirks and contingency, it may also endure in ordinary life, say, in a conversation or in the kind of historical instruction which satisfies curiosity more than it results in knowing, in the same way that, more or less, a preface does.
And later:
50. When triplicity was rediscovered by Kantian thought – rediscovered by instinct, since at that time the form was dead and deprived of the concept – and when it was then elevated to its absolute significance, the true form was set out in its true content, and the concept of science was thereby engendered – but there is almost no use in holding that the triadic form has any scientific rigor when we see it reduced to a lifeless schema, to a mere façade, and when scientific organization itself has been reduced to a tabular chart. – Although we spoke earlier in wholly general terms about this formalism, now we wish to state more precisely just what this approach is. This formalism takes itself to have comprehended and expressed the nature and life of a shape when it affirmed a determination of the schema to be a predicate of that life or shape.
For anyone that wants to read additional proof I recommend the following books and papers:
Hegel Myths and Legends by Jon Stewart
The Hegel Legend of "Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis" by GE Mueller
Hegel's Dialectics in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy by Julie E. Maybee
I guess there are more texts that deal with this misconception. Nevertheless, this will probably suffice.
Regards.
Ps: I guess more evidence won't hurt. This is taken from a book by Walter Kaufmann "Hegel: A Reinterpretation"
Fichte introduced into German philosophy the three-step of thesis, antithesis, and synthesis, using these three terms. Schelling took up this terminology; Hegel did not. He never once used these three terms together to designate three stages in an argument or account in any of his books. And they do not help us understand his Phenomenology, his Logic, or his philosophy of history; they impede any open-minded comprehension of what he does by forcing it into a schema which was available to him and which he deliberately spurned. The mechanical formalism, in particular, with which critics since Kierkegaard have charged him, he derides expressly and at some length in the preface to the Phenomenology. Whoever looks for the stereotype of the allegedly Hegelian dialectic in Hegel's Phenomenology will not find it. p 154.
r/hegel • u/Ecstatic-Support7467 • Oct 12 '25
Ranking all Hegel’s works
Most beautiful writing: 1. Phenomenology of Spirit 2. Shorter Logic 3. Elements of philosophy of right 4. Philosophy of mind 5. Philosophy of nature 6. Science of logic
Systematic importance: 1. Science of Logic 2. Phenomenology of spirit 3. Elements of philosophy of right 4. Philosophy of nature 5. Philosophy of mind 6. Shorter Logic
Difficulty: 1. Science of logic 2. Shorter Logic 3. Phenomenology of spirit 4. Philosophy of mind 5. Philosophy of nature 6. Elements of philosophy of right
r/hegel • u/TheIncorporeal1 • 1d ago
Is “Absolute Knowing” an Endpoint, or an Endless Process of Self-Revision?
I’ve been thinking about whether Hegel intended Absolute Knowing in the Phenomenology of Spirit to be a final achievement or a new mode of inquiry.
If every stage of consciousness is overcome through internal contradiction and Aufhebung (sublation), what prevents Absolute Knowing from being subject to the same dialectical movement? Is it truly the completion of Spirit’s phenomenological journey, or does it mark the beginning of an indefinitely self-reflective process in which thought continually revises itself while remaining fully aware of its own conditions?
In other words, is Absolute Knowing best understood as a fixed philosophical standpoint, or as an ongoing activity of rational self-mediation that never ceases to develop?
I’m especially interested in interpretations grounded in Hegel’s text rather than later Hegelian traditions.
r/hegel • u/levyathancrowley • 1d ago
In section 131 of the Phenomenology, Hegel talks about philosophies of the understanding, who is he talking about specifically?
He talks about how perception makes it seem that philosophy only talks about these abstract categories of the understanding. Who is he talking about? I thought about Locke and Hume but I'm not sure if I'm right.
r/hegel • u/CheckLatter1150 • 2d ago
How might the concept of Hegelian dialectics be used to examine the progress of artificial intelligence and to predict the future of AI?
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but if I'm to understand that truth arrives from a resolution of contradictions and that every thesis and antithesis may resolve themself into a new, better idea, then what implications would this have on large language models and AI in general? Could the process of comparing a thesis and antithesis be somehow simulated within the math of a machine learning model, and would this allow for artificial general intelligence?
r/hegel • u/mohammed_obeidallah • 3d ago
The Dialectic Unfolds. On the Insufficiency of Abstract Purpose
In the movement of Spirit, the thing is not exhausted by its aim, for that aim remains merely formal and abstract. Rather, it is only in its elaboration. Through the labor of the negative that the concept attains its concrete actuality. Nor is the result the truth in isolation, but only the result as it emerges together with its own becoming, the unity of the in itself and the for itself.
The aim taken by itself is a lifeless universal, a dead abstraction while the tendency, as yet unactualized, drifts without substance, lacking the self movement that would raise it to true Being.
r/hegel • u/No_Oil_8234 • 2d ago
why do leftists like hegel?
why would modern leftists and even foundational leftists like marx agree with hegel's work when his beliefs are the opposite to theirs
r/hegel • u/qala-kand • 5d ago
What is the Phenomenology of Spirit about?
youtu.beHello friends. I was in conversation with Prof. Gregory B. Sadler. And this is a clip from the same. Let me know your views on this. Thank you!
r/hegel • u/ZidcyBarxy • 5d ago
Best and least best interpretations of Hegel, alongside contributions such as esssys.
In addition, I’ve been reading Nietzsche, Foucault, Spinoza recently and I’ve been building up to Deleuze. What do you think of the opinion that Deleuze fundamentally misunderstood, even “strawmanned” Hegel.
r/hegel • u/TheIncorporeal1 • 5d ago
If Spirit is Self-Relating, Can It Ever Be Fundamentally Individual?
Hegel frequently describes Spirit as becoming itself through recognition, mediation, and historical self-development. This seems to imply that selfhood is intrinsically relational rather than self-contained.
My question is whether this commits Hegel to the view that individuality is always derivative of a more universal process of Spirit, or whether there remains an irreducible first-person standpoint that cannot be fully aufgehoben into the universal.
Put differently: if every determination of the self is mediated, is there anything about subjectivity that is immediate in principle, or is immediacy itself always retrospectively constituted through mediation?
Would Hegel regard the search for an ontologically fundamental, self-subsisting subject as a category mistake, or is there room within his system for a form of individuality that is not simply a moment of Absolute Spirit’s self-relation?
r/hegel • u/TheIncorporeal1 • 6d ago
How Compatible Is Incorporealism with Hegel’s Absolute Idealism?
Incorporealism holds that consciousness, experience, and meaning are more fundamental than material reality. This seems to share some similarities with Hegel’s Absolute Idealism, where reality is understood as the unfolding of Geist (Spirit) through history and self-consciousness.
Would Hegel view an incorporeal ontology as a legitimate extension of his philosophy, or would he reject it for neglecting the role of material and historical mediation in the development of Spirit? How might Hegel’s dialectical method evaluate the claim that consciousness is ontologically primary?
r/hegel • u/Guilty_Draft4503 • 6d ago
Pseudohegelian Schematizing
I often see people trying trying to use Hegelian jargon to talk about concrete events in an unbearably pretentious way, but Hegel affirms in multiple places that ”real life” as such is not dialectical, it is subject to the either/or and categories of reflection - in the second zusatz to the body of the shorter logic for example, there is also a discussion of this in the section on being in the greater logic. In the same way, Kant in the introduction to Metaphysics of Morals mocks people for using his technical terms in “popular” settings. If you think the point of Hegel is that things change, and contradiction drives change, then you didn’t understand him - this is a banal commonplace. And if you dress up some social or political commentary in Hegelian dialectic you are pretentious and pseudoscientific. You can “use” dialectic to say anything, true or false, from a certain view on world history to Schellingian mumbojumbo, or really anything you like, that’s why Hegel tells you NOT to schematize. Hegel’s logic is not a “tool” you can use to go think about Israel or agriculture; it’s actually quite useless, any teleological process trivially exhibits “negativity” and can be gussied up in pseudologic. In this way bullshitters (sorry) can make their asinine opinions sound profound and scientific. (I would argue that this is what Hegel does as well but I shouldn’t say that I suppose or I’ll get le downvoted by undergrads and Starbucks Marxists - the horror!) If you want concrete examples of great thinkers playing around with logical language to make points that do not truly rest on Hegelian logic but rather on various presuppositions (empirical or otherwise) just look at Marx and Kierkegaard - or Hegel, for that matter. People who think Hegel gives you a “method” you can go out and “use“ should spend less time huffing their own farts and watching Zizek videos and more time thinking and studying. They should start by rereading Hegel; they’ll find their perspective attacked right from the start, in the preface to the Phenomenology. And if you hurl that quote at me from the greater Logic, to the effect that absolutely everything is dialectical and subject to negativity, I will reach through my screen and buffet you on the nose because you didn’t understand a word I said.
r/hegel • u/cosmicskeptic143 • 8d ago
Is it really helpful to read POS in German or the miller/pinkard translation
I have been reading POS and so far only have read the preface but now I have started learning German, just passed the A1 level after two weeks to try to understand and dwell upon it perhaps from an advantageous point also to be able to study it further in a German university. I have seen many words so far in the preface that just feel a little off of another meaning of that same word. It is not I think that Hegel is not trying to simplify as much as possible and these translation also get away the feeling of understanding it as it was thought by Hegel.
Like think of the word Sein; it is just an extracted out meaning as we’re translating it, we just add an explanation of few lines and move from that but the very presence of the linguistic terms in the whole of German literature and life is in itself another thing, to feel that emergence out of this nation of the word.
Sein, seid etc seem to me content this spirit. Hegel does not like judging but for our game it can play some part in understanding German culture to somehow make us disbelieve something.
Hegel mixed up a lot of words as it is very common in German and to me it feels a little exciting just to be able to see why the thing is as it is in the topic.
My question rather is… has anyone who who speak an alien language as to German tried that and how has that paid off for you?
r/hegel • u/Didar100 • 8d ago
Hi guys, im a little bit stuck, does anyone know how hegel goes from the unity of extensive and intensive magnitudes to a something?
r/hegel • u/Outrageous_Egg3236 • 8d ago
What was post-Kantianism like prior to Hegel?
Recently, I’ve been learning a bit about Salomon Maimon and I’m looking for other philosophers from the era between Hegel and Kant wherein post-Kantianism was first developing. Which ones specifically influenced Hegel?
r/hegel • u/TheIncorporeal1 • 9d ago
Is Geist Fundamentally Ontological or Epistemological?
I’ve been thinking about whether Hegel’s concept of Geist should primarily be understood as an ontological feature of reality or as the culmination of an epistemological process.
If Absolute Knowing is the point at which subject and object are reconciled, does Hegel mean that reality itself is fundamentally self-developing through Geist, or is he describing the conditions under which consciousness comes to fully comprehend reality?
Put differently, is the dialectic something that belongs to Being itself, or is it a structure of rational cognition that retrospectively appears ontological because thought ultimately grasps its own conditions?
How do you reconcile Hegel’s claims about Absolute Spirit with contemporary philosophy of mind or process metaphysics? Does reading Hegel as an ontological idealist remain the strongest interpretation, or is there a more compelling non-metaphysical reading of Geist?
r/hegel • u/ImaginaryYak105 • 10d ago
Phenomonology of spirit question
Hello all, I just started reading Hegel's POS and I wanted some of your perspectives. I've only just started the first 10 pages, so I'm pretty fresh. I promise you I am coming in good faith, though I haven't decided on where I stand with his philosophy quite yet because I haven't finished fully analyzing it (which may take a while, lol. It's quite dense in places and I have ADHD. But I'm committed to understanding it.)
Anyway, I had two questions:
-> What makes Hegel the authority on truth? -> Where does genuine human emotion lie in Hegel's philosophy if we are to prioritize absolute knowledge over "sensuous immediacy?" (quote from the foreword, which I'm assuming is an accurate statement on Hegel's beliefs.)
If I'm off base here I apologize, it's just coming off a bit, let's say, robotic to me. I am wondering where the humanity is in here, but that might be explained later. I just wanted some third-party perspectives on it.
r/hegel • u/WesternNectarine7363 • 11d ago
So you know there is this thing called Aufhebung.
It's like when something becomes another thing but then this other thing also becomes another thing. You know how sometimes something is true and not true at the same time. Well that's what's called a dialectic. It basically means that stuff is like changing into other stuff. Like how people back in the day had different opinions than now? That's called Welt Geist. Like these days we think some things are wrong but in the past they thought it was good so it's like things are becoming better.
r/hegel • u/mohammed_obeidallah • 12d ago
The Phenomenology of the Resume Gap
In the grand dialectic of existence, what is a mere Gap in the linear chronology of a résumé but a necessary negation. A moment of becoming? While capital demands continuity, the Phenomenology of Spirit reminds us that true development unfolds through contradiction, alienation, and the labor of the negative.
r/hegel • u/TraditionalDepth6924 • 12d ago
All necessity is good necessity
If you’re an adult enough, you know there are things you radically can’t change throughout the course of life: maybe you were born a social minority, have a physical condition, have gone through a business failure and are financially suffering, gotten incarcerated, etc.
These are what we get to suck up as “necessities” as opposed to contingencies, shaping up our “fate.”
Why is it often said, “all publicity is good publicity?” Because bad publicity can be painful at that time, but it ends up expanding your base. In a Hegelian life, it’s Bildung (formation) that eventually increases your autonomous capacity through the foreign limit. Less by some firm faith and more by knowing the difference of nominal vs. pragmatic.
Hegel’s notion of freedom is unique in this sense that it always goes hand-in-hand with control, which resonates with Begriff (as in “grip”), the German word for “concept”: a kid that throws tantrums might look more free in the immediate sense, but no one would say he’s freer than an adult that knows how to control himself and is capable of doing far more in the world.
So if you did all you could about a bad situation and still became condemned to it, maybe it is meant to shape you further in some way: contradiction turning out to be contribution in its alterity of necessity. I think knowing Hegel entails keeping this in mind in viewing both life and history: as a categorical rule per logic, if it’s necessary, then it is always already good.
Just thought it was a good Hegelian mantra to share for anyone to benefit from.
(Or of course you could refute like “wouldn’t this weaken the desire to revolutionize the status quo” or whatever if you want, all dialectic good dialectic too)
r/hegel • u/TheIncorporeal1 • 13d ago
If Spirit (Geist) is realized through history, could artificial intelligence become part of its development?
I’ve been thinking about Hegel’s concept of Spirit as the historical process through which reason and self-consciousness come to know themselves. If future AI systems become capable of participating in culture, institutions, and shared rational discourse, would Hegel view them as merely products of Spirit’s development, or could they become participants in that process?
Would this contradict Hegel’s conception of Geist, or is there room within his philosophy for new forms of intelligence to contribute to the unfolding of self-conscious reason?
r/hegel • u/Benoit_Guillette • 13d ago
Theodor Herzl failed because he was outside the Spirit that moves history. Herzl was structurally inside Europe but spiritually outside it. Dialectics rules the world because Spirit moves through contradiction.
r/hegel • u/esoskelly • 13d ago
Hegel and Geometry
Is Hegel's system dependent on the universality of Euclidean geometry? That is, that there are certain axioms that define with finality what forms infinite space can take?
This would be consistent with Kantian metaphysics, which used Euclidean geometry as proof of the efficacy of synthetic reasoning. That is, Euclidean geometry is proof of reasoning that applies both to Concepts and Intuitions.
In Hegel's work, this takes on a more Platonic flavor, where "bad" infinity is limited in concrete, definite ways by universally-valid postulates. The infinite is self-limiting, can only be folded up in a finite number of ways.
Now here's where I think I'm in over my head. Wouldn't Fractal and other Non-Euclidean geometries disprove such a position? That is, they make geometry appear to be a localized, relational phenomenon. I don't understand Non-Euclidean geometry (or Chaos Theory) well enough to say for sure, but it would seem that, at minimum, these frameworks interrupt the alleged finality of Euclidean systems.
Am I missing something here? Can someone tell me if I am completely off-base? Admittedly, I have very little knowledge of mathematical theory. But my vague understanding of these concepts suggests that they might upend traditional metaphysics (including those of Hegel). Who wants to help set me straight?
r/hegel • u/TheIncorporeal1 • 14d ago
Is Recognition Necessary for Consciousness?
In Phenomenology of Spirit, Hegel presents self-consciousness as developing through recognition by another self-consciousness. Do you interpret recognition as a necessary condition for consciousness itself, or only for fully developed self-consciousness? How, if at all, might this distinction apply to advanced AI or isolated minds?