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I think the DH situation is more about DH getting the most substantial buffs. While cards like [[enthralled shade]] or [[Irida sinseeker]] or the DK cards needed it even more but got less. So yeah there's more work to be done.

Like I said DH weren't a mistake but I hope the struggling cards/classes get the same amount of love.

I'm a big fan of this direction, I hope they keep breathing new life into cards. Older sets too.

Edit: Moragg + Imp gang stooge buffs seem to be a succes aswell. The deck is both good and fun.

Alongside the Paladin archetype of buffing future Silver Hand Recruits, it came an update to show their statline in the Hero Power and cards that summon them.

Someone give a call to Pursuit of Justice, who may not have gotten the memo either.

And before reading the dev comment, I expected the nerf to be done to prevent some infinite combo I didn't know about. But no, it's simply a pretty good card, too good in fact. Interesting!

What has just happened to that deck is very similar to what happened with the mini-set and Companion Hunter.

We had a meta that was widely considered to be stale beforehand. We had some content drop. The content only really made one deck competitive (Void Soul DH), while having a very limited effect on the rest. The result? People play that new deck in droves, the deck has absurd popularity, the deck becomes overhated and most likely the deck gets nerfed hard fast.

The truth is that the buffs just weren't enough. DH was the only one that was buffed aggressively, and I wanna say that this is a good thing. The problem is that no other decks were buffed as aggressively. To give some context, before the patch:

• No deck DH (Irida) was a 35% WR archetype. The Irida buff was +2 health.
• Blights DK was a 25% winrate archetype. The buff was +1/+1 to the charge minion, and 1 mana cheaper.
• Azalina was a 40% winrate archetype. The buff was 40 Health. This one might be decent, but I don't think Blizzard wants Azalina to be a serious deck, which is fine.
• Warlock is the other one that got decent buffs, but still is likely to land around T3. Before the patch, it was one of the lowest winrate decks in the entire game, around 25% to 30% IIRC, so they could have gone a bit harder still.

They keep doing this loop of nerfing stuff but not buffing enough stuff and just adding decks to the meta one at a time which creates a massive variety problem, which I'd say has been the main issue with the Year of the Scarab. Deck variety is simply too low with too many dead classes, so any new deck you add is just going to get an obscene playrate because there's just nothing else new to play.

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I think this patch has achieved pretty much what every balance patch should do for the game. A large shift in meta decks, boosting underperforming archetypes, and not outright killing new decks that did emerge. I can play warlock and not feel embarrassed trying to make it work, it feels quite strong in certain areas. Void Soul dh was a big winner in this patch, the class desperately needed a new deck. Hell, giving Azalina the 40 health addition is cool too. We've been getting far too many balance patches where the best deck gets nerfed and things largely stay the same, so I think patches like this one should be celebrated for the things they've achieved.

If I had one complaint I'd say the nerfs to warptooth and troublemaker felt unnecessary. That's something I feel with hindsight, but I think those options still being around as they were would be fine.

It's interesting looking at the initial data coming in. Everything I'm about to review is subject to change as we get more information, but there are some interesting trends suggesting that the nerfs may not have been wise, knowing what we now know.

Here's the current matchup table and Meta tab: https://imgur.com/a/7qTn6P8

What got nerfed: Warptooth (Egg, Dragon, and Logash Warrior), Blazing Invocation (Mug Shaman), Vanessa and Troublemaker (2 and Herald Rogue), and Tolvir (Face/Contraband Hunters).

As of now, DH is currently massively popular (about 40% playrate), and putting up a rather solid win rate. According to our matchup table, its bad matches are:

• Face Hunter: about 47-49%, depending on rank.

• Godfrey (Big Demon) Warlock: about 42-45%, depending on rank

• Egg Warrior is about even.

Face Hunter getting nerfed no doubt made that match slightly worse for the Hunter, which could be serving as a stronger counter to DH. Egg Warrior getting hit with Warptooth could also have presented another option for the DHs.

Yet despite getting nerfed, Hunter is now winning more than before the patch. This is because (a) it is beating DH a bit, (b) it's beating Warlock a lot, (c) it's seeing far fewer Dragon Warriors, losing a bad match, and (d) it's of course beating up on a lot of bad Priest and Rafaam decks people queued up. But so is everything, so let's just disregard that last point.

The larger point there is an unnerfed Hunter could be beating up more on DH, helping to keep that in check, while also being checked itself by other things that got nerfed.

Like Mug Shaman. That used to beat Hunter rather well, and now the margins are closer to even. While Shaman was certainly a power outlier before, it just developed 2 new bad matches into...Warlock and DH. These decks could have naturally pulled down Shaman's win rate even without a nerf.

Egg Warrior is currently about even with DH. With an intact Warptooth, that match may well have been slightly favorable, helping to check DH more than it is currently being checked.

Dragon Warrior could have helped check Hunter, while also likely going closer to even with DH if it still had Warptooth power.

As for Rogue, Vanessa is now looking pretty bad. So while Rogues have to cut her, they get to cut the bad support cards they played for her, including Agent of the Old Ones, Backstab, and possibly Garona (still up in the air). This allows decks to be rebuilt in a way that might go more in on the 2-cost cards, boosting the power of Jade Guardians and Lotus Troublemaker. The net result may be looking more like a side-grade than a nerf. However, losing Vanessa seems to have hurt Herald more. So that deck which was already struggling might be even worse off.

Metas are pretty dynamic things. It's quite possible these buffs to Warlock and DH could have been more successful in the overall sense of things without the nerfs that hit at the same time.

I really really dont care about them. Just dust them immidiately and craft the basic version.

Not a complain post btw (blights were never going to work well, that was obvious).

He needs cheaper herald instead of 6 mana hexperimental animation.

Herald classes combined herald cards cost:

DH: 5 mana - Fel infusion (2 mana) + Armored bloodletter (3 mana)

Rogue: 5 mana - Rite of twilight (2 mana) + Maniac follower (3 mana)

Warlock: 6 mana - Shadowformed disciple (2 mana) + Shrine of twilight (4 mana)

Shaman: 4 mana (!) - Ritual of power (2 mana) + Skywall Sentinel (2 mana)

Warrior: 7 mana - Cataclysmic war axe (3 mana) + Scorching Ravager (4 mana)

DK: 10 mana !!!! - Obsessive technician (4 mana) + Experimental Animation (6 mana)

He has the most expensive herald cards out of all classes. And everyone knows that expensive herald cards are kinda meh.

Imo he should have some 3 mana shitter with herald added, something like:

- 3 mana 3/1 reborn. Battlecry: herald colossal.

And remove herald from experimental animation to balance things out + reduce mana cost to 5.

What you think??

He played his egg turn 3, stole that. He played his second egg (hogger rule breaker) on turn 6, stole that as well.

I managed to steal the last two Rafaam's needed out of opponents hand then he conceded. You'd hardly ever want to pull this against some other classes.

Hello folks,

Apologies if this question doesn’t make much sense, i am a returning player after many years, have been playing for a month now. I am not good at deciding card values or anything, just trying to have some fun.

I had a weekly quest from 5 6 years ago, don’t even remember when i played last.

Should i dust these now or will these still be viable in the coming weeks?

I play standard.

Thank you all for answers.

Edit: Thank you everyone, you are all extremely kind people! I have dusted them all and will wait for further guidance with new decks.

Dear devs, I have reflected on my actions of complaining. I'm incredibly grateful. This week's second rare card clearly had to be cut for budget reasons.
The amount of dust is so generous that I don't have to waste time deciding what to craft

I'm a new player and either I suck or my deck sucks because I can't break out of platinum. Any thoughts? I tried the pure aura paladin but I found it weaker in the early game and I thought the "end of turn" stacking mechanism wasn't very strong and I didn't hit it often

Just a post showing the top 15 cards by winrate, assuming you're only looking at those with a decent sample size (more than 2% of decks played). TLDR demon hunter broken, as always.

Drop ur prediction for the next nerf below