r/ancientgreece May 13 '22

Coin posts

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Until such time as whoever has decided to spam the sub with their coin posts stops, all coin posts are currently banned, and posters will be banned as well.


r/ancientgreece 5h ago

Ancient Greek Architecture, Porch of the Maidens on the Erechtheion temple located at the Acropolis of Athens.

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r/ancientgreece 6h ago

Panathenaic prize amphora. Greek, Attic, ca 470 BC. Terracotta with black figure decoration attributed to the Niobid Painter. Baltimore Museum of Art collection [2695x3600]

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r/ancientgreece 57m ago

The Odyssey | Book Review

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r/ancientgreece 8h ago

A bit of a look at how Warhammer 40,000 voyaged though Ancient Greece. Thanks

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r/ancientgreece 6h ago

Unknown letter

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I stumbled across a stone tablet in Stavropoleos Monastery in Bucharest, Romania and I decided to translate it for fun but there is one letter that I cannot find. If anybody knows it, it would super helpful thanks


r/ancientgreece 3h ago

The odyssey

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I just watched The Odyssey, and there’s one part that confused me. Penelope warns Telemachus about the “people from the sea”, saying they bring bad luck, disease, and don’t respect island laws. I’m not sure what she means by “people from the sea”. Is she referring to pirates, raiders, foreign sailors, or something mythological? Was this based on an actual belief in ancient Greece, or was it added or emphasized for the movie? I’d really appreciate any historical or mythological context.


r/ancientgreece 5h ago

How Christopher Nolan Turns The Odyssey into Superficial Power Struggles

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What's maddening about Nolan’s vacuous Odyssey is its reduction of epic to costume drama—stripping Homer of cultural density, sacred intelligence, and hard-won wisdom. What remains is a spiritually flat spectacle of competing egos: all motion, no revelation. One of the greatest human epics flattened into a superhero film, Spider-Man in a toga (with Mary Jane along for the ride).

In contrast, The Return (2024) grasps that the Odyssey isn't just about who wins—but how knowledge, craft, and discipline confer legitimacy in a world saturated with danger and meaning. (I wrote about its brilliance as a modern interpretation:

The Singing Bow and the Civilizing Hero: Craft, Technology, and Legitimate Power from Homer to Eliade

In The Return (2024), the climactic scene in which Odysseus strings his bow has been widely understood as a test of strength, identity, or destiny. Yet this reading misses the most important thing happening on screen. The bow is not conquered by force. It is awakened. Odysseus warms it by the fire, braces it with calm certainty, plucks the string to hear its voice, and only then acts. This sequence — fire, preparation, sound, action — is not decorative or symbolic excess. It is technological literacy rendered cinematically. When viewed through the lens of ancient craft traditions and Mircea Eliade’s The Forge and the Crucible: The Origins and Structure of Alchemy, the scene reveals something far older and deeper than heroics: leadership grounded in the primordial authority of the maker.

In archaic societies, the right to rule did not flow primarily from bloodline, rhetoric, or abstract law. It flowed from demonstrated mastery over matter. The ability to transform raw, dangerous materials into usable form — to make ships, weapons, tools, and structures — was not ancillary to power. It was power. Eliade identifies this clearly when he traces the symbolic and ritual significance of smiths and metalworkers across cultures, showing that those who work with fire and matter were often regarded as “civilizing heroes” whose craft was tied to the cosmogonic process itself.

Odysseus’s bow is not merely a weapon. It is a forged world, and the man who can awaken it is the rightful king.


Craft Knowledge Versus Brute Strength

Modern audiences are conditioned to read feats of physical difficulty as contests of strength alone. The suitors fail to string the bow; Odysseus succeeds; therefore Odysseus must be stronger. But this interpretation collapses under even basic material analysis and is contradicted by both the film and the original Homeric text.

In The Return, the competition is presented in accordance with the traditional narrative: none of the suitors can string the bow, which stands as a test of worthiness and skill. In Homer’s Odyssey (Book 21), the suitors repeatedly try to string the bow but fail, not merely through inadequacy but through unfamiliarity with its unique demands.

Historical high-draw war bows — such as those reconstructed by modern bowyers — routinely exceed 150 pounds of draw weight, and contemporary archers often require mechanical aid to string them safely. These aren’t trivial feats of strength; they’re feats of embodied technique, timing, and intimate understanding of the bow’s materials and geometry.

Composite bows — made of horn, sinew, wood, and hide glue — introduce an additional layer of complexity. Their performance depends on temperature, humidity, and material elasticity. A cold composite bow can be effectively unstringable without warming first, as horn stiffens, sinew contracts, and hide glue becomes brittle. Warming restores elasticity and reduces internal stresses. Historical accounts and traditional practices from Central Asian, Persian, and Ottoman archery traditions document archers warming their bows by fire or body heat before bracing.

Thus, the suitors in The Return fail not because they lack muscle, but because they treat the bow as a static object. Odysseus treats it as a system. He warms it.


Fire as Awakening, Not Symbol

The act of warming the bow by the fire is easy to misread as symbolic ritual. In fact, it is a technical necessity if the bow is composite in construction. Horn, wood, and sinew — the canonical materials of many ancient bows — respond differently to temperature. When cold, these materials resist bending and store energy unevenly. Warmed, they regain pliancy and elasticity.

In the context of the film, the fire scene isn’t an arbitrary flourish. It reflects a deep material logic — one that resonates with artisans, bowyers, and material-workers across history. It is the difference between a brittle stick and a sprung tool; between a dormant object and a responsive instrument.

That Odysseus alone performs this step tells us something decisive: no one else in the room understands what the bow is. Knowledge of how to awaken it is not legendary or ceremonial. It is earned at a workbench.


The Musical Pluck: Tuning the World

After bracing the bow, Odysseus plucks the string. This moment is directly attested in Homer: the plucked string “sang sweetly … with the sound of a swallow’s note.” This isn’t just a poetic flourish; it is a tuning gesture.

A strung bow is, acoustically speaking, a monochord: tensioned fiber, stable geometry, and resonant body. Plucking it reveals:

Brace height and tension

Limb symmetry

Integrity of materials

Dynamic readiness

A healthy bow rings. A damaged or uneven one thuds or buzzes. The fact that Odysseus plucks the string once — not experimentally, but decisively — and hears a clear, sweet note tells the audience both emotionally and technically that the bow is whole.

In The Odyssey itself, the simile comparing this act to a lyre-player tuning his instrument underscores a linkage between craftsmanship and music — between technical mastery and artistic harmony.

Music here is harmonia — an ordering of forces. Odysseus does not merely prepare a weapon; he tunes a system. Violence follows only after harmony is reestablished.


The Bow as a Forged World

Mircea Eliade’s The Forge and the Crucible demonstrates that across cultures, smiths and metalworkers were invested with a sacred authority because their craft reenacted the primordial act of creation. They entered fire, transformed raw materials, and brought forth tools, implements, weapons, and structures — effectively making the world habitable. In myths from Africa to Central Asia, smiths are described as civilizing heroes whose knowledge and mastery were central to cultural origins.

Although Odysseus’s bow is not a metal object forged in fire, it belongs symbolically to the same category of culturally significant artifacts. Composite bows represent one of the most technologically sophisticated types of weapons developed in the ancient world. Their manufacture alone demands the coordination of wood, horn, sinew, glue, heat, and time — a deliberate orchestration of materials that, in Eliade’s terms, echoes mythic creation. The bow thus becomes a microcosm of world-making.

Waking it from dormancy, listening to it sing, and acting only when it speaks back — these are not cinematic embellishments. They are craft-based gestures, rooted in material reality.


Maker-Kings and Civilizing Authority

In archaic societies, leaders were expected to do. Kings were shipbuilders, warriors, judges, and makers. Odysseus is repeatedly characterized in the Homeric corpus as a man of metis — cunning intelligence rooted in practical knowledge. He builds the Trojan Horse, constructs ships, navigates weather and geography, and understands men and materials alike. His authority is not rhetorical; it is demonstrated.

The suitors, by contrast, are consumers — feasting, boasting, and posturing without depth. They want kingship’s rewards without its burdens. They cannot string the bow because they cannot enter the dangerous intimacy of making. Their failure is not moral first; it is technical.

Eliade’s account of myth underscores the connection between the smith (or maker) and cultural authority. The craftsman’s role in transforming matter — and thus culture — situates them near the heart of civilizational narratives. Odysseus qualifies for kingship for the same reason: he is a maker who can re-awaken and tune the world.


The Primordial Gesture Repeated

Eliade emphasizes the raised hammer and downward strike as primordial gestures — bodily, rhythmic, world-making. Odysseus’s actions echo this pattern:

  1. Preparation through fire

  2. Alignment and tension

  3. Sound as confirmation

  4. Decisive action

This sequence appears across crafts: smithing, music, shipbuilding, and governance. Before creation, there is tuning. Before authority, there is competence. The body must know what the mind claims.

The bow scene works because it bypasses modern abstractions of power and returns us to something older and more honest. The man who can make and awaken things leads. The one who cannot does not.


Why This Still Resonates

Modern audiences may not consciously articulate this logic, but they feel it. We still instinctively trust leaders who understand how things are made, who respect limits, who can fix what breaks. We distrust those who speak fluently but cannot engage material reality. That instinct is ancient and mythic.

The Return succeeds because it quietly honors this truth. It does not explain. It shows. The warming fire, the single pluck, the singing string — these are not flourishes. They are credentials.


Conclusion: Creation as the Ultimate Legitimacy

Odysseus does not reclaim his throne first. He reclaims his craft. The bow responds because it recognizes its maker — or at least the man who understands it as a maker does. In that recognition lies legitimacy.

Eliade teaches us that civilization begins not with laws or speeches, but with the first controlled strike against raw matter. Homer shows us that kingship is earned the same way. The Return reminds us — quietly, almost secretly — that before a man can rule others, he must prove he can still make the world sing.

The bow sings once.

That is enough.

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r/ancientgreece 10h ago

My story in south Crete

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The real story

My story in south Crete

The real story

My story in south Crete

I want to tell my story and my opinion about these families as a refugee, traveler, writer, thinker, and job seeker.

I spent the first time with this family the first time I came to Moires, south of Crete one year 2022, 2023 and then I left for Belgium.

I stayed for one year and half and then I came back on the 28th of August 2025.

All my trips are for work in agriculture.

As a refugee I am 100% honest in my deals and working with People, so I don't accept to do dirty work or working in black or trafficking humans or drugs.

You will ask yourself while you're reading this article why I came and left and came back???

This is the point of the story.

So when I came the first time to work in agriculture especially in the olives groves in the winter of 2022, it was a full season and they needed a lot of workers to harvest the olives.

I was in communication with a lot of People from Palestine They wanted to work and I was bringing People to work in mesara especially for the xalkiadakis family in Castelle, kapariana.

Anyways, that year passed and Stelios found me working in a restaurant in triopetra in the south of Crete, it was good and bad.

I left at the end of the season after I found the owner didn't pay all the ensima.

I left Crete and I went to Belgium and then I came back to work with Stileos xalkiadakis, if you don't know who it is, he is the owner of "south Crete safari".

When Iet him I asked him for work and he said yes he has work in the greenhouse, he will start growing cucumber.

I went to stay in the greenhouse and start working immediately and the situation down there is shit but I handle it for all the period I worked there.

I worked from 28th of August 2025, until the 22nd of May 2026.

I fixed cucumber and worked in the olives and build to him a hint for chicken and harvest the cucumber and growing milon.

All this period it was full of stress, aggressive behaviour, my payment is shit compared to non professional workers I was getting paid 50€ non stop working, no days off.

I came with all my furniture, my car, my tools, kit.

Other workers came with nothing and took more money, this is not my point.

The point is the last 2 months he started acting like a dump, saying he doesn't have money, I felt I am in the Gail.

My life is restricted by cutting the only source of income.

The big point is I didn't get paid for 3 months until now.

My insurance is not paid until now.

I registered in the university and I have to pay money and he said: "cancel the university is not important ".

When I have to renewy documents and I need money to go to make it he is saying: "cancel it". "Άλλαξε ραντεβού".

All those bad days and this behaviour was dealt with all his family especially he pushed his cousin "Sofia". To do the dirty job and take more flesh from me.

She came to say she wants to be with me.

She mostly used me for sex, and transportation to take her to her music school, her therapist, hospital.

I got used to it so much and I got nothing paid and my insurance is not paid.

This family is the topical racist one they're all the time talking about Christianity, Muslims conflict and they wish a big war to happen.

Stileos xalkiadakis was very physically aggressive with me and other black People from Africa that he brought them to work in agriculture.

When I left there the police set up a roadblock on the road leading to Rethymno because they saw I was driving towards the west.

Those policemen are all corrupted as usual.

They work randomly without any authority or legal warrant.

They check my papers and other papers that they don't have to touch even because I am a Palestinian "refugee".

This shit has to stop and to end

My message is to the president of Greece Mr Metsotakis.

Do you know that?

Do you need more stories to tell you?

Do you see what's going on?

Do you want videos, records, photos of how destroyed the system is?

I am responsible for every word I wrote and I have more.

I am responsible for Consequences and any honor investigation.

This is a small trip just for one year experience.

I have been here in Greece for almost 7 years now.

Thank you all for nothing.


r/ancientgreece 2d ago

Two women baking bread in an oven. Greek, Boeotian, 6th-5th c BC. Terracotta with traces of red polychrome. Godwin-Ternbach Museum collection [2992x2992] [OC]

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r/ancientgreece 1d ago

La storia dimenticata: L'ineguagliato contributo degli scienziati greci al progresso economico, scientifico e tecnologico della civiltà occidentale.

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La cultura ellenica viene ricordata dai più per la nascita della filosofia e per la fondazione del pensiero occidentale da parte dei padri fondatori della cosiddetta scuola di Atene. Alcuni autori hanno persino affermato che "Quando nasce la filosofia, la parabola dell’eccellenza greca ha già iniziato il suo declino."

In verità non c'è niente di più falso. Il contributo che la cultura ellenica ha dato al progresso umano va ben oltre la filosofia classica e vorrei quindi tentare di offrire alle giovani leve uno sguardo differente verso quello scorcio di passato che è stato immeritatamente cancellato dai libri di storia.

Infatti, gli antichi greci furono soprattutto scienziati e inventori, probabilmente i più grandi della storia conosciuta. Euclide, Apollonio, Ipazia, Eratostene, Talete, Aristarco, Claudio Tolomeo, Archimede, Ctesibio, Erone, Erofilo, Erasistrato, Pitagora, etc. Questi sono solo alcuni dei più grandi scienziati/inventori greci che hanno di fatto fondato il pensiero scientifico, e quindi le scienze occidentali, ben prima dei più noti Leonardo Da Vinci e Galileo Galilei, che non fecero altro che perfezionare e sviluppare il loro lascito. Lo stesso Galileo Galilei definì Archimede "il mio maestro" e "il soprumano Archimede, la cui memoria non si rammenta mai senza ammirazione".

Per comprendere l'importanza del loro contributo al progresso scientifico basti sapere che la scoperta e l'applicazione industriale della camma (e dell'albero a camme), meccanismo altrimenti conosciuto come le "canne", risale all'epoca ellenistica (scuola di Alessandria, in particolare a Filone di Bisanzio III secolo a.c.).

Questa scoperta fu alla base della rivoluzione industriale medievale (mulini ad acqua) ed è ancora oggi alla base della nostra visto che permette di convertire il moto rotatorio continuo in un moto lineare alternato e viceversa (motore a vapore, motore a scoppio, turbine, etc).

I greci, insieme ai cinesi, furono persino fra i primi ad utilizzare strumenti finanziari derivati come call, put, etc. Il tutto è documentato da Aristotele nel suo "La Politica", dove racconta come Talete di Mileto sfruttò le sue conoscenze astronomiche per prevedere un eccezionale raccolto di olive e guadagnare un fortuna. Lo stesso Talete che Aristotele, nel primo libro della sua Metafisica, indica come l'iniziatore della filosofia occidentale.

Stiamo quindi parlando di geni assoluti che fecero progressi rivoluzionari nelle discipline più disparate.

Purtroppo la maggior parte dei loro nomi e delle loro scoperte/opere non ci sono pervenute, se non a brandelli o come semplici riferimenti grazie ad altri storici o pensatori che avevano avuto modo di leggere le loro opere e ammirare le loro scoperte. Ne sappiamo pochissimo perché la loro eredità è stata sistematicamente cancellata dalla barbarie dei romani, dei cristiani, degli arabi, etc.

Per inciso, buona parte di questi scienziati greci soggiornò per anni in Egitto appropriandosi delle conoscenze scientifiche degli antichi egizi. Conoscenze che sono andate perse e di cui conosciamo solo parzialmente il valore grazie alle memorie e alle citazioni degli stessi greci.

Altro fatto poco conosciuto è che la stessa rivoluzione tecnologica e culturale rinascimentale ebbe luogo soprattutto grazie agli intellettuali greci che, sfuggiti alla caduta di Costantinopoli si rifugiarono in Italia. Qui incontrarono i signori locali per cui tradussero i testi greci antichi che erano riusciti a trafugare e salvare.

Purtroppo la maggior parte di questi scritti era già andata perduta a causa del fatto che la pelle su cui erano stati scritti era stata raschiata per far posto alle scritture sacre tanto care a mistici e religiosi ma, quel poco che si salvò, fu sufficiente a innescare una delle più grandi rivoluzioni culturali della storia.

A conferma di ciò, uno dei primi mecenati che mise a libro paga gli esuli greci di Costantinopoli fu Cosimo de' Medici, fondatore della dinastia medicea, nonché nonno di Lorenzo il Magnifico, emblema del Rinascimento. A loro dobbiamo l'introduzione della filosofia del neoplatonismo alessandrino che influenzò poi il Rinascimento fiorentino.

L’influenza di questi testi fu enorme sulla cultura dell’epoca e ancora oggi la si può trovare rappresentata in ogni dove, dal Duomo di Siena a Palazzo Medici Riccardi, alla Galleria degli Uffizi e persino in Vaticano.

A conferma di quanto la cultura egiziana fu essenziale per lo sviluppo di quella greca, la figura centrale del fenomeno culturale che ispirò gli uomini del Rinascimento fu Ermete Trismegisto, scienziato leggendario dell'antico Egitto, rinominato prima Asclepio dai greci e poi Esculapio dai romani. Considerato all’epoca autore del Corpus Hermeticum fu venerato come una sorta di patrono della conoscenza ("il grande architetto"). Per inciso, si scoprì poi che il Corpus Hermeticum era una raccolta di trattati indipendenti scritti da vari autori anonimi di cultura greca tra il I e il III secolo d.C. nella Alessandria tardo-ellenistica.

Ermete Trismegisto, identificato storicamente con Imhotep ( https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imhotep ), fu poi divinizzato come Thot dagli egiziani, come Hermes (patrono della conoscenza) dai greci e come Mercurio dai romani. Nei testi latini tardo-antichi e poi nel Rinascimento, Ermete Trismegisto veniva comunemente definito il "Mercurio Egizio".

Questo immenso lascito culturale lo dobbiamo a quella fucina di intellettuali che fu Alessandria d’Egitto, altrimenti conosciuta come la Biblioteca di Alessandria. Non dimentichiamolo.


r/ancientgreece 21h ago

Everyone Just Wants to Go Back Home: A Review of Odyssey (2026)

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Christopher Nolan's Odyssey revives the ancient epic as a modern allegory with depictions of societal collapse and the violent end of the bronze age. https://www.geesemag.com/articles/everyone-just-wants-to-go-back-home-a-review-of-odyssey-2026


r/ancientgreece 1d ago

The Death of Palamedes - A Novel of the Trojan War

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[https://deathofpalamedes.substack.com/\](https://deathofpalamedes.substack.com/)

Hello! I've been writing and editing this novel over the course of the last five years, and after trying to get an agent for a while have just decided to self publish. I thought this sub might be interested in it. Here's a 'back of the novel' summary:

*'The Death of Palamedes* is a novel about the life of Palamedes, a figure remembered in Greek mythology as Odysseus’ intellectual rival, but absent from Homer’s epics. Credited in myth with the invention of games of chance and the spread of writing among the Greeks, Palamedes was executed by his own commanders for opposing the Trojan War. Told from the perspective of the war’s often forgotten rank-and-file soldiers, the novel explores the role that Palamedes’ death and subversion of heroic ideals played in the collapse of the mythic age through a polyvocal narrative concerned with writing, memory, and justice in a world defined by war.

In the aftermath of the Trojan War, five soldiers who survive the wreckage of the returning Greek fleet wash ashore on a desolate coast and are taken in by a reclusive hermit. Over the course of a week, an idealistic youth and a cynical pragmatist reconstruct the stories of Palamedes and the war for their host alongside the other survivors. They do so through layered, unreliable testimony: their own memories, myths, fragments of written accounts, and a series of dreams that blur the boundary between the mortal and divine. What emerges is the story of a long rivalry between Palamedes and Odysseus, a dangerous game that begins in their childhood and escalates throughout the war. At its center stands Achilles, whose understanding of honor and greatness both men seek to shape and whose choices will determine the fate of the conflict. As the heroes and soldiers telling their stories reflect on the politics of memory and confront the atrocities of war, they attempt to process their grief and guilt in a world ruled by violence and revenge. Through these accounts, the novel asks whether peace stands a chance in a world built on violence, whether compassion can endure against “necessity”, and whether memory preserves truth, or only remakes it in the telling.'


r/ancientgreece 2d ago

Question about Odyssey (the film) concept of Xenia and real-world application

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Minor spoilers ahead for the Odyssey

A constant feature of the film circles around themes of being kind and hospitable to strangers by way of what they refer to as “Zeus’ Law” in the film or Xenia in real life. Knowing Homer lived 4-5 centuries after the fall of Troy and given what we know about ancient Mycenaean culture through archaeology as well as how the classical Greeks viewed that age as the last time when heroes roamed the earth and gods interacted with humans, is there a precursor for this concept of Xenia in Mycenaean Greece? Is the idea of Xenia an anachronistic insertion from later Greeks to these older stories as trying to paint the Mycenaean age as a time of people being more virtuous and noble?


r/ancientgreece 2d ago

The lost Epic Cycle: all the summaries and fragments edited together

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Link: https://archive.org/details/epic-cycle-complete-2026.07

I think everybody's fascinated when they discover that the Iliad and Odyssey didn't tell the whole Trojan War story and there are six lost epics about it. I've edit together the fragments so they can be read as a continuous story without losing accuracy. I only added a few linking words, standardised the names, and changed some tenses, to fit the pieces together.

I also included introductions, a map, family trees, and a glossary of names to make it easier to follow.

I also added a section on the Iliad and Odyssey's "cycle", i.e. all the references to the broader story in the two Homeric epics.

Hope you guys find it interesting!


r/ancientgreece 1d ago

I built an interactive graph of how gods, emperors, thinkers, and artists all connect — to learn with my kid before our trip to Rome

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r/ancientgreece 1d ago

Penelope for 20 years in The Odyssey:

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r/ancientgreece 3d ago

Odysseus the beggar, greeted by his dog Argus

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(Hopefully a Roman denarius depicting a scene from the classic Greek tale is appropriate here!)

Reverse shows Odysseus/Ulysses returning from his odyssey after the Trojan War, greeted by his faithful hunting dog Argus.
Obverse shows Hermes/Mercury in a winged petasos, with caduceus above shoulder.

Minted by Caius Mamilius Limetanus, 82 BCE.


r/ancientgreece 1d ago

TIL that the story of the Trojan Horse is not mentioned in the Illiad and is only briefly bmentioned in the Odyssey. The account of the Fall of Troy that is known today was written by the Roman poet Virgil in 1st century BC.

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r/ancientgreece 1d ago

Why diddnt Odysseus ssail Around the coast Is He Stupid?

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r/ancientgreece 1d ago

How Christopher Nolan Taught Benny Safdie to Aura Farm as Agamemnon

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r/ancientgreece 1d ago

My story in south Crete

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r/ancientgreece 1d ago

My story in south Crete

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The real story My story in south Crete

I want to tell my story and my opinion about these family as a refugee, traveler, writer, thinker, and job seeker.

I spent with this family the first time I came to Moires, south of Crete one year 2022, 2023 and then I left to Belgium.

I stayed for one year and half and then I came back in 28th of August 2025.

All my trips it's for work in the agriculture.

As a refugee I am 100% honest in my deals and working with People, so I don't accept to do dirty work or working in black or trafficking human or drugs.

You will ask yourself while you're reading this article why I came and left and came back???

This is the point of the story.

So when I came the first time to work in the agriculture especially in the olives groves in the winter of 2022, it was a full season and they need a lot of workers to harvest the olives.

I was in communication with a lot of People from Palestine they want to work and I was bringing People to work in mesara especially for xalkiadakis family in Castelle, kaparoana.

Anyways, that year passed and Stelios finds me work in a restaurant in triopetra in the south of Crete, it was good and bad.

I left in the end of the season after I found the owner didn't pay all the ensima.

I left Crete and I went to Belgium and then I came back to work with Stileos xalkiadakis, if you don't know who is it, he is the owner of "south Crete safari".

When Iet him I asked him for work and he said yes he has work in the greenhouse, he will start growing cucumber.

I went to stay in the greenhouse and start working immediately and the situation down there is shit but I handle it for all the period I worked there.

I worked from 28th of August 2025, untill 22nd of May 2026.

I fixed cucumber and worked in the olives and build to him a hint for chicken and harvest the cucumber and growing milon.

All this period it was full of stress, aggressive behaviour, my payment is shit compared to non professional workers I was getting paid 50€ non stop working, no days off.

I came with all my furniture, my car, my tools, kit.

Other workers came with nothing and take more money, this is not my point.

The point is the last 2 months he started acting like a dump, saying he doesn't have money, I felt I am in the Gail.

My life restricted by cutting the only source of income.

The big point is I didn't get paid for 3 months until now.

My insurance is not paid until now.

I registered in the university and I have to pay money and he said: "cancel the university it's not important ".

When I have to renewy documents and I need money to go to make it he was replaying: "cancel it". "Άλλαξε ραντεβού".

All those bad days and these behaviour it was dealt with all his family especially he pushed his cousin "Sofia". To do the dirty job and take more flesh from me.

She came to say she wants to be with me.

She mostly used me for sex, and transportation to take her to her music school, her therapist, hospital.

I got used so much and I got nothing paid and my insurance is not paid.

This family is the topical racist one they're all the time talking about Christianity, Muslims conflict and they wish a big war to happen.

Stileos xalkiadakis was very physically aggressive with me and other black People from Africa that he brings them to work in the agriculture.

When I left from there the police set up a roadblock on the road leading to Rethymno because they saw I am driving towards the west.

Those policeman are all corrupted as usual.

They work randomly without any authority or legal warrant.

They check my papers and other papers that they don't have to touch even but because I am Palestinian "refugee".

This shit has to stop and to end

My message is to the president of Greece Mr Metsotakis.

Do you know that?

Do you need more stories to tell you?

Do you see what's going on?

Do you want videos, records, photos of how destroyed the system is?

I am responsible for every word I wrote and I have more.

I am responsible for Consequences and any honor investigation.

This is a small trip just for one year experience.

I am here in Greece for almost 7 years now.

Thank you all for nothing.


r/ancientgreece 2d ago

Was there censorship in Ancient Greece? Could you write a play about anything?

13 Upvotes

I thinking specifically around 800-400 BC in Athens, Sparta, Corinth, Argos, and any other similarly large-sized cities. Was there any censorship on the type of play you could make or topics you could cover?


r/ancientgreece 2d ago

What did ancient Greek cities look like?

8 Upvotes

There are of course tons of supposed representations of ancient Greek villages and cities on the internet, but do we have any visualizations backed by recorded evidence?

I'm looking for something rigorous yet complete. I am aware of Ancient Athens 3D, which is very thorough and amazing, but I'm looking for something that depicts a more complete snapshot of life, with people and vegetation and animals in addition to the buildings and city planning.

Thanks! <3