Personal review… 8/10! Or B+

If it wasn’t for Emily Blunts acting or weird face expressions this could have easily been a 10/10.

And to stay on topic without major spoilers, yes this movie is relevant to this Reddit lol. Also, it is very very close or 1 to 1 adaptation of what is currently going on. There’s 1 scene that really got to me because I suspect it is really happening.

Again great movie, but you do have to be an Alien or uap nerd to get the most of it.

Another issue with the llama skull hypothesis is the placement of the sinus cavities. CT imaging shows that the tridactyl specimens and llama skulls do not share the same internal anatomy. In the tridactyl specimens, the sinus cavities are located much farther forward, whereas in a llama skull they are positioned toward the back of the skull. If the tridactyl skulls were simply modified llama skulls, the internal sinus anatomy would be expected to reflect that origin. Instead, the location and arrangement of these cavities are inconsistent with what the llama skull hypothesis predicts.

I keep getting challenged to "go look up" the testimony of the "scientists" who have examined some of the alleged alien/hybrid mummy/corpses....the implication being that many respected authorities have found these to be "real". Let's look at the truth.

In January 2024, the Peruvian Institute for Legal Medicine and Forensic Sciences concluded that the bodies are "dolls made from animal bones" held together with synthetic glue and covered with paper and skin-like materials. “They’re not extraterrestrials,” Flavio Estrada, an archeologist with Peru’s Institute for Legal Medicine and Forensic Sciences, told Reuters in January. “They’re dolls made from animal bones from this planet joined together with modern synthetic glue. It’s totally a made-up story.”

Peruvian experts state the specimens are often composites. For instance, a three-fingered hand evaluated by radiograph was found to be constructed of human adult and subadult bones.

Major organizations like the World Committee on Mummy Studies have dismissed the specimens as a hoax and an "irresponsible organized campaign of disinformation"

The following statement comes from Dr. John McDowell (a forensic odontologist and retired professor at the University of Colorado), who visited Peru at the behest of Maussan, and who is often misquoted as saying the tridactyls were "real":

"Please understand that we know the "Nazca Mummies" you have sent images of (Josefina, Albert, Clara, Victoria) were never living entities composed of the hard tissues of one and only one "species."  It would be foolish to state that these "bodies" could represent individuals that could have been alive let alone capable of walking, flying or swimming. Please do not infer that we said otherwise."

The persons who currently control these "remains" have never allowed any outside group to examine or manipulate the bodies. Josh McDowell, the son of John McDowell, a Colorado Springs attorney and spokesman for the American scientists investigating the mummies, released an official statement on social media:

“To date, the U.S. forensic team has only performed a cursory visual examination of the specimens with the aid of limited imaging equipment. Any conclusory statements about the specimens would be extremely premature. Limitations on our examination precluded excluding or confirming any manipulation of the remains. Currently, the forensic team can only indicate that further examination and study is warranted. We invite constructive interaction and collaboration.”

 “There’s been some preliminary DNA studies,” said Caruso during the press conference. “We would want actual, very definitive DNA studies done at high complexity laboratories. The carbon dating needs to be repeated with more sophisticated methods. Those are things that we’re looking for. Our preliminary investigation really just led to the fact that more investigation is needed.”

Once again, aside from several local doctors with no expertise in mummies, archaeology, or DNA analysis, essentially everyone who's seen these has either said they're outright fakes, or they won't make a definitive statement without further research, which is not forthcoming. Maussan's pet radiologist will continue to create graphics purporting to show this or that, but no outsiders will be allowed to disassemble these corpses or do any real in-depth DNA testing or examinations. A rural technical college in Peru does not begin to have the kind of equipment and expertise to do any real scientific analysis of these things, and that is by intent. These are for tourism, nothing more. They'll play it as long as they can, and eventually it'll become a sideshow exhibit, which it borderline is now.

Since when has humanity been able to create neck veins and vascular systems 700 to 1,800 years ago?

To the custodians, curators, investigators, and public advocates of the Tridactyl specimens:

I am willing to help fund and organize a neutral, independent scientific examination of one of the Tridactyl specimens at a neutral medical school in Peru. I'm an anesthesiologist, and have the means to make this happen.

This is not a request for someone else to take action. I am prepared to help assemble the team, cover legitimate institutional and laboratory costs, coordinate neutral expert participation, and support a transparent process that both proponents and skeptics can trust.

The central question is straightforward:

Is the specimen one coherent biological individual, or is it a modified, assembled, or composite body made from human, animal, archaeological, or artificial materials?

That question can be answered only through a properly controlled anatomical, radiologic, histologic, genetic, and materials-based examination.

Proposed conditions

1. No access fee to the curators

I am willing to fund legitimate costs: medical school facilities, imaging, laboratory testing, expert travel, documentation, sample shipment, and independent analysis.

However, there should be no access fee, licensing fee, filming fee, handling fee, or payment to the curators for permission to examine the specimen. The credibility of the process requires that access not be monetized.

2. Neutral Peruvian medical school

The examination should occur at a neutral, uninvolved medical school in Peru. The institution should control the facility, specimen receipt, documentation, security, imaging access, chain of custody, and sample release.

3. Neutral expert team

The core team should include internationally respected, well-published experts with no prior involvement in the specimens and no financial or advocacy relationship to either side.

The core team should include:

1. Forensic anthropologist, bioarchaeologist, or forensic anatomist

   To determine whether the skeleton is anatomically coherent, whether bones belong together, whether elements are human or animal, and whether there is evidence of cutting, filing, rearrangement, artificial articulation, or postmortem construction.

2. Forensic pathologist or anatomical pathologist experienced with mummified remains

   To lead the controlled gross examination, evaluate tissue continuity, identify organs or soft-tissue structures, and perform a preservation-conscious dissection.

3. Ancient DNA / paleogenomics specialist with forensic mixture experience

   To supervise sampling, contamination control, elimination samples, extraction blanks, DNA chain of custody, and interpretation of degraded or mixed genetic material.

Additional consultants should be available as needed, including a forensic radiologist, zooarchaeologist or comparative vertebrate anatomist, archaeological conservator, conservation scientist, and trace-materials analyst.

4. Observers from both sides

Representatives from both proponents and critics should be allowed to attend as observers. Their role would be to monitor the process, not direct the examination.

5. Full livestream and continuous recording

The examination should be livestreamed and continuously recorded from specimen receipt through imaging, external examination, dissection, biopsy collection, labeling, sealing, and transfer of samples.

There should be no off-camera manipulation of the specimen.

6. Preservation-conscious autopsy

The purpose is not to destroy the specimen.

A properly performed autopsy of a rare specimen should increase its scientific value, not diminish it. Museums, medical schools, forensic institutes, and archaeological laboratories routinely examine rare remains using careful, preservation-conscious methods.

The process should begin with non-destructive documentation: high-resolution photography, full CT, thin-slice skeletal reconstruction, targeted micro-CT if needed, and 3D scanning. Any incision or biopsy should be planned from imaging first. Sampling should be minimal, anatomically meaningful, and fully documented.

The goal is to leave the specimen better documented than before.

7. Return of the specimen

The specimen should be returned to the curators after examination, except for agreed biopsies and trace samples. Its condition should be documented at arrival and return.

Every removed sample should be photographed, labeled, sealed, measured or weighed when appropriate, and logged.

8. Strict DNA chain of custody

DNA sampling should be supervised by the ancient DNA specialist and performed under accepted ancient-DNA conditions.

The protocol should include:

• elimination DNA profiles from everyone who handles the specimen
• surface swabs to assess contamination
• protected internal bone or tissue sampling where possible
• extraction blanks and library blanks
• environmental controls
• independent duplicate samples from separate anatomical sites
• sample splitting between at least two independent ancient DNA laboratories
• forensic chain-of-custody shipment
• fragment-length analysis
• ancient-DNA damage profiling
• human contamination estimates
• mitochondrial and nuclear DNA analysis
• forensic mixture analysis
• conservative metagenomic analysis

The goal is not merely to ask whether some reads are “human,” “non-human,” or “unknown.” The goal is to determine whether the DNA comes from one coherent organism, multiple humans, animals, microbes, environmental sources, handlers, or some combination of these.

9. Anatomy and imaging first

Before any destructive sampling, the specimen should undergo full radiologic and anatomical assessment.

The team should specifically determine whether:

• the joints are real anatomical joints
• the bones articulate naturally
• the hands and feet are anatomically plausible
• digits were removed, rearranged, or reconstructed
• the skull, spine, ribs, pelvis, and limbs belong to the same organism
• skeletal maturity is consistent across the body
• bones are human, animal, or mixed
• there are pins, wires, adhesives, plaster, clay, fibers, packing material, or artificial supports

10. Public release of data

After appropriate quality control, the following should be made public:

• CT DICOM files
• 3D reconstructions
• high-resolution photographs
• full video record
• biopsy map
• sample inventory
• histology images
• materials-analysis reports
• raw DNA sequencing data
• negative-control results
• lab protocols
• final reports from each expert

Extraordinary claims require inspectable data.

Why I am proposing this

The existing evidence has not resolved the issue. Selective interpretation of images, private testing, degraded DNA, unclassified reads, and competing public claims are not enough.

If the specimens are genuine, this process would be the strongest possible path toward recognition.

If they are modified, composite, contaminated, or misinterpreted, this process would clarify that as well.

Either outcome is better than continued uncertainty.

In summary:

I am prepared to help fund and organize a neutral, transparent examination under these conditions:

• No access fee to curators.
• Neutral Peruvian medical school.
• Neutral, internationally respected experts.
• Observers from both sides.
• Full livestream and continuous recording.
• Preservation-conscious autopsy.
• Strict DNA chain of custody.
• Independent laboratory replication.
• Public release of data.
• Return of the specimen after examination.

The public deserves a clear answer, and the specimens deserve a proper scientific examination.

Increasingly over time, this sub has been overridden with people who are more than happy to shut down any disagreement by claiming that skeptics are acting in bad faith, paid disinfo agents, etc.. Weaponized blocking to stifle discussion has also been allowed.

The sub is advertised as being friendly to believers AND skeptics. Allowing this behavior says quite the opposite.

Rule 1 here is pretty clear, and yet it is enforced in a manner that doesn't really match it's tone. The behavior I've described here is absolutely disrespectful and should not be tolerated. Mods, respectfully, please step up to the plate or add more people to the team who can properly ensure that civil and intelligent discourse is happening here.

u/VerbalCant , two years ago you made a post talking about how this behavior would not be tolerated: https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/comments/1franrs/important_mod_post_no_disrespectful_dialogueno/ One of the examples you listed is specifically this kind of behavior.

u/Memystic , you've been gone for 2 years without any participation in the sub you created. Suddenly you appear again 2 months ago. Your private life should remain respected, but we deserve a little transparency as to why you haven't been managing this sub and why, under your watch, moderation in general has been left in the hands of a couple of very earnest yet very busy people.

Despite all of your posturing, there has been very little action to curb this issue. Aside from Ronk, we never even hear from any of the mods anymore. I get that it's hard to keep tabs on a sub like this when you have a busy professional life, which is why we either need additional mods or an entirely new mod team.

I would really like to understand why, if a person, say, in the U.S., with legitimate access to a research lab with DNA sequencing and protein sequencing(?) etc facilities wanted to get their hands on a sample, why couldn’t the custodians of the mummies just remove like 1 cubic millimeter or whatever is needed for testing and let them have it? They could literally break one knuckle off of each mummy and that would be enough to have a supply of samples ready to ship for anyone who wants to independently do the testing.

They could charge a reasonable fee for the trouble or structure the pricing in whatever way makes them the most money, if they wanted to. And I would bet there are legitimate mechanisms for them to continue to do infotainment for profit in conjunction with the publication of their customers’ findings in legitimate research journals or in other ways.

EITHER a crazy-subtle multinational intelligence/corporate octopus has been preventing the legitimate testing of legitimate artifacts (through whatever means that spies would use including sneaking in on the mummies in a vulnerable moment like during transport and switching out the artifacts with a facsimile), OR a seemingly heterogeneous group of people (who nevertheless have one thing in common which is they are all open — as many of us are — to disturbing theories about lost ancient civilizations and whatever) are promoting (hopefully fully unknowingly) things that are, at least in part, very fake.

Or both. Thanks for reading.

Also, I support everything about this post.

Art by Dr. Fung.

These are purported as real on their website along with the other versions on the mummies yet they barely get shared:

https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/nukarri/

Increasingly over time, this sub has been overridden with people who are more than happy to shut down any disagreement by claiming that skeptics are acting in bad faith, paid disinfo agents, etc.. Weaponized blocking to stifle discussion has also been allowed.

The sub is advertised as being friendly to believers AND skeptics. Allowing this behavior says quite the opposite.

Rule 1 here is pretty clear, and yet it is enforced in a manner that doesn't really match it's tone. The behavior I've described here is absolutely disrespectful and should not be tolerated. Mods, respectfully, please step up to the plate or add more people to the team who can properly ensure that civil and intelligent discourse is happening here.

u/VerbalCant , two years ago you made a post talking about how this behavior would not be tolerated: https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/comments/1franrs/important_mod_post_no_disrespectful_dialogueno/ One of the examples you listed is specifically this kind of behavior.

u/Memystic , you've been gone for 2 years without any participation in the sub you created. Suddenly you appear again 2 months ago. Your private life should remain respected, but we deserve a little transparency as to why you haven't been managing this sub and why, under your watch, moderation in general has been left in the hands of a couple of very earnest yet very busy people.

Despite all of your posturing, there has been very little action to curb this issue. Aside from Ronk, we never even hear from any of the mods anymore. I get that it's hard to keep tabs on a sub like this when you have a busy professional life, which is why we either need additional mods or an entirely new mod team.

https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/albert/

The issue with the llama hypothesis was it took forever to find the necessary llama data. Should these 2 images be checked next?

This should be self evident which is why I never understood the llama skull debunk.

There is no comparison once you examine the llama skull and the reptilian-like tridactyl skull using 3D CT models. The anatomical differences are immediately apparent.

Full report: https://tridactyls.org/llama-cranium-vs-tridactyl-skull

Increasingly over time, this sub has been overridden with people who are more than happy to shut down any disagreement by claiming that skeptics are acting in bad faith, paid disinfo agents, etc.

Rule 1 here is pretty clear, and yet it is enforced in a manner that doesn't really match it's tone. The behavior I've described here is absolutely disrespectful and should not be tolerated. Mods, respectfully, please step up to the plate or add more people to the team who can properly ensure that civil and intelligent discourse is happening here.

u/VerbalCant , two years ago you made a post talking about how this behavior would not be tolerated: https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/comments/1franrs/important_mod_post_no_disrespectful_dialogueno/ One of the examples you listed is specifically this kind of behavior.

Despite all of your posturing, there has been very little action to curb this issue. Aside from Ronk, we never even hear from any of the mods anymore. I get that it's hard to keep tabs on a sub like this, which is why we either need additional mods or an entirely new mod team.

Well apparently i’m briefly responding into this main prospective of this main original quality contents of this main page.

Most people focus on the fact that they have three toes, but the entire foot is different. The differences are visible both externally and on CT scans. The heel, the tarsal region, the soft tissue distribution, and the weight bearing pads all differ from those of a human foot.

The discussion should not be limited to the number of toes. The entire anatomy of the foot deserves to be examined.